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> I've been studying 'adverserial-to-human" information, and this is the second to best example I have managed to convince others with; even those unbiased with

> I've been studying 'adverserial-to-human" information, and this is the second to best example I have managed to convince others with; even those unbiased with children. Setting Skibidi Toilet aside, are you really that confident that misinformation, hate speech and historical revisionism are less harmful to society than a Markiplier meme that makes grown-ups cringe?

deafpolygon 2y ago
> are you really that confident that misinformation, hate speech and historical revisionism I don't think the person you responded to brought those up or attempted to say that. Both could be true. I don't know anything about adversarial-to-human information, but I thought we were better than this (Whataboutism) at HN.
- klibertp 2y ago
  > I don't know anything about adversarial-to-human information I also don't know this particular term, but my it reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk and the related https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_hazard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_hazard - though the latter deals with "true" information, if I understand correctly, so the fan-fiction site wouldn't fit, I think?
  - Jerrrrrrry 2y ago
    Does information have to be true to be harmful? Also thanks for the links, I forgot lurkers may lack context.
- Jerrrrrrry 2y ago
  >but I thought we were better than this (Whataboutism) at HN. Whataboutism is Whataboutism.
Jerrrrrrry 2y ago
>Setting Skibidi Toilet aside That was the #3rd item, close. >you really that confident that misinformation, hate speech and historical revisionism Are you not? These are the excuses our nation has used to justify the last decade. >Markiplier meme that makes grown-ups cringe? I don't engage in these things, which is why I post what I did. Without googling the context (I know the bread-tuber), I just wanted to point out that grown ups "cringing" should make you wonder.

deafpolygon 2y ago

> are you really that confident that misinformation, hate speech and historical revisionism I don't think the person you responded to brought those up or attempted to say that. Both could be true. I don't know anything about adversarial-to-human information, but I thought we were better than this (Whataboutism) at HN.

klibertp 2y ago
> I don't know anything about adversarial-to-human information I also don't know this particular term, but my it reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk and the related https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_hazard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_hazard - though the latter deals with "true" information, if I understand correctly, so the fan-fiction site wouldn't fit, I think?
- Jerrrrrrry 2y ago
  Does information have to be true to be harmful? Also thanks for the links, I forgot lurkers may lack context.
Jerrrrrrry 2y ago
>but I thought we were better than this (Whataboutism) at HN. Whataboutism is Whataboutism.

Jerrrrrrry 2y ago

>Setting Skibidi Toilet aside That was the #3rd item, close. >you really that confident that misinformation, hate speech and historical revisionism Are you not? These are the excuses our nation has used to justify the last decade. >Markiplier meme that makes grown-ups cringe? I don't engage in these things, which is why I post what I did. Without googling the context (I know the bread-tuber), I just wanted to point out that grown ups "cringing" should make you wonder.