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>a guy who would go on to write that women shouldn't get wage equality because they would have to work more dangerous jobs and thus die more, because apparently

>a guy who would go on to write that women shouldn't get wage equality because they would have to work more dangerous jobs and thus die more, because apparently saving the lives of man by making those jobs safer is impossible. I think it can be true that we should make those jobs safer and that it makes sense to pay dangerous jobs more. I really am curious what the people that disagree with me think. Do you think that danger shouldn’t be compensated?

SiempreViernes 2y ago
You are arguing against a claim you made up yourself, best of luck getting that conversation somewhere useful.
- l33t7332273 2y ago
  I’m not sure what you mean. I thought I was responding to the plain meaning of the text I quoted. What claim did I make up?
  - SiempreViernes 2y ago
    That someone claimed those were opposing aims.
    - l33t7332273 2y ago
      Of course someone did. The clear and obvious interpretation is saying that “making the jobs safer” is an alternative to “a group does more dangerous jobs and dangerous jobs should be paid more”
      - SiempreViernes 2y ago
        What? You explicitly want people to die?
idiotsecant 2y ago
I know plenty of dangerous jobs that are poorly compensated. I don't know many millionare inner city convenience store clerks. Jobs compensate employees according to how much they can get away with exploiting their employees.
marcus_holmes 2y ago
It's more that I don't see the relevance of that to the subject being discussed. If dangerous jobs are paid more, what does that have to do with the gender pay gap? And, let's face it, two of the most dangerous jobs around at the moment are teaching and nursing, both of which are predominately done by women.
- l33t7332273 2y ago
  >If dangerous jobs are paid more, what does that have to do with the gender pay gap? Men do far more dangerous jobs than women
- luma 2y ago
  > let's face it, two of the most dangerous jobs around at the moment are teaching and nursing, both of which are predominately done by women. Not even in the top 10. 2024 numbers: Logging – 100.7 per 100,000 workers Roofing – 57.5 Fishing and hunting – 50.9 Construction trade helpers – 38.5 Air transportation – 35.9 Delivery trucking and commercial trucking – 30.4 Refuse and recycling – 22.6 Iron and steel – 21.3 Mining – 20.1 Agricultural workers – 20.0
  - soco 2y ago
    I wonder what happens to get those numbers for the air transportation industry? I definitely didn't expect it in the top...
    - klooney 2y ago
      I had a friend who worked on the ramp at SFO. Saw him real shook up after work, said he saw a coworker drive one of their carts under a plane while looking elsewhere- and got his head cut off. It's a very physical job with a lot of powerful machines.
  - l33t7332273 2y ago
    These are just deaths. I wonder also about exposure related hazards.

SiempreViernes 2y ago

You are arguing against a claim you made up yourself, best of luck getting that conversation somewhere useful.

l33t7332273 2y ago
I’m not sure what you mean. I thought I was responding to the plain meaning of the text I quoted. What claim did I make up?
- SiempreViernes 2y ago
  That someone claimed those were opposing aims.
  - l33t7332273 2y ago
    Of course someone did. The clear and obvious interpretation is saying that “making the jobs safer” is an alternative to “a group does more dangerous jobs and dangerous jobs should be paid more”
    - SiempreViernes 2y ago
      What? You explicitly want people to die?

idiotsecant 2y ago

I know plenty of dangerous jobs that are poorly compensated. I don't know many millionare inner city convenience store clerks. Jobs compensate employees according to how much they can get away with exploiting their employees.

marcus_holmes 2y ago

It's more that I don't see the relevance of that to the subject being discussed. If dangerous jobs are paid more, what does that have to do with the gender pay gap? And, let's face it, two of the most dangerous jobs around at the moment are teaching and nursing, both of which are predominately done by women.

l33t7332273 2y ago
>If dangerous jobs are paid more, what does that have to do with the gender pay gap? Men do far more dangerous jobs than women
luma 2y ago
> let's face it, two of the most dangerous jobs around at the moment are teaching and nursing, both of which are predominately done by women. Not even in the top 10. 2024 numbers: Logging – 100.7 per 100,000 workers Roofing – 57.5 Fishing and hunting – 50.9 Construction trade helpers – 38.5 Air transportation – 35.9 Delivery trucking and commercial trucking – 30.4 Refuse and recycling – 22.6 Iron and steel – 21.3 Mining – 20.1 Agricultural workers – 20.0
- soco 2y ago
  I wonder what happens to get those numbers for the air transportation industry? I definitely didn't expect it in the top...
  - klooney 2y ago
    I had a friend who worked on the ramp at SFO. Saw him real shook up after work, said he saw a coworker drive one of their carts under a plane while looking elsewhere- and got his head cut off. It's a very physical job with a lot of powerful machines.
- l33t7332273 2y ago
  These are just deaths. I wonder also about exposure related hazards.