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I hear a lot of anti-worker propaganda like this and it baffles me. I live in the Netherlands where these types of worker protections are enshrined in law, and
by sensanaty 2y ago
I hear a lot of anti-worker propaganda like this and it baffles me.
I live in the Netherlands where these types of worker protections are enshrined in law, and I don't think I've ever encountered this boogeyman of the super low performing coworker that somehow ruins things for everyone else. News flash, low performance is still a valid reason for dismissal, it just has to actually be backed up by proof rather than being done on a whim because some manager has a vendetta.
Also, I don't give a shit how low performance my colleagues are as long as the useless managerial class exists. The laziest and most worthless people I've ever interacted with were always managers or manager-adjacent, never a regular employee.
- strix_varius 2y agoAs a sometimes-engineer, sometimes-manager in mostly multinational tech, this doesn't reflect my experience at all. I've worked with plenty of low performing ICs (as both peer and manager), and the trends are clear: * companies that don't do, or don't do sufficient, technical interviewing * employees with heavy worker protections, like in Germany. I've also worked with fantastic German colleagues btw. But one reason they tended to get paid so much less is that they came with much, much higher risk, as they were essentially un-fireable. Even with imminently clear under performance you're looking at a year of PIPs, paperwork, and CYA bureaucracy. Personally, I've found it more fulfilling to work in at-will places, for much higher wages, with more uniformly excellent colleagues. There's a reason so many of the best software engineers in the world make their way to the US.