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brutal story. for those who were equally confused this post seems to have the same title as but is unrelated to Dario Amodei's recent https://darioamodei.com/ma
by swyx 2y ago
brutal story. for those who were equally confused this post seems to have the same title as but is unrelated to Dario Amodei's recent https://darioamodei.com/machines-of-loving-grace https://darioamodei.com/machines-of-loving-grace - is perhaps a nice/bittersweet reality check on how our designs often fall short of our ambitions.
- austinjp 2y agoWhich in turn references the 1967 poem by Richard Brautigan: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Watched_Over_by_Machines_of_Loving_Grace https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Watched_Over_by_Machines...
- getwiththeprog 2y agoI had wondered where this saying came from, thank you for the reference. here is the direct link to the poem. https://brautiganarchives.xyz/machines.html#28 https://brautiganarchives.xyz/machines.html#28
- DonaldFisk 2y agoAlso the name of a documentary series by Adam Curtis: https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace/ https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/all-watched-over-by-machines...
- Nition 2y agoThe full poem is also in the article. (sorry to be That Person, but I'm really hoping Hacker News doesn't eventually become like Reddit where the comments are almost completely divorced from the content of the article).
- TeMPOraL 2y agoIt sometimes happens, but I'd say it's for the best. Often the greatest value (sometimes the only value) a submitted link has is as a discussion prompt.
- amonon 2y agoI don't know, the Matt Stoller Substack post from yesterday had a whole line of discussion that was already covered in the article.
- woodson 2y agoThere’s also John Markoff’s history of the relationship of human and intelligent machines, artificial intelligence vs intelligence augmentation, etc. (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23460922-machines-of-loving-grace https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23460922-machines-of-lov...).
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoThe post here and Amodei’s are both in reference to this poem: https://allpoetry.com/All-Watched-Over-By-Machines-Of-Loving-Grace https://allpoetry.com/All-Watched-Over-By-Machines-Of-Loving... And I think the poem is satire, although some have read it as being serious.
- drcwpl 2y agoI think that the benign portrayal of machines seems tongue-in-cheek, particularly considering Brautigan’s own ambivalence toward technological advancement.
- rbanffy 2y agoLet's then make sure we build those Machines of Loving Grace right, for we might have only one shot at that. I like that poem, and I hope we eventually get there, with our artificial descendants as our partners.