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While I really like the concept, I2P is one of those P2P network strongly associated with the darkest corner of the Internet in my mind and something I would ra

While I really like the concept, I2P is one of those P2P network strongly associated with the darkest corner of the Internet in my mind and something I would rather stay away from (because I would rather not get arrested randomly because I have used it). Now I was just going through the I2P Wikipedia page and I couldn't find anything about that. Are my fears irrational?

seanw444 2y ago
Unless you live in a third-world country, I don't think you have to worry much, especially if you live a very uncontroversial life.
- _lvbh 2y ago
  Most 3rd world countries aren't advanced enough to catch you anyways. I'd be more worried in parts of the EU or UK
  - a5c11 2y ago
    In 3rd world countries they don't care about piracy, drug dealing, or inappropriate content, but they do care about what you're saying about government. In first world countries it's the exact opposite, you can openly criticize government, hell you can make fun of politicians, but better watch out when looking for pirated content.
- ignoramous 2y ago
  > Unless you live in a third-world country... Funny how some people fantasize all the autocratic, dystopian shit must always be going down in the "third world". Too much Hollywood.
  - gosub100 2y ago
    Would you rather have a judicial "miscalculation" happen to you in the US or Iran?
    - Jochim 2y ago
      The US will happily execute someone who could very well be innocent. Robert Robertson is currently alive on a technicality[0]. [0] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-set-execute-robert-roberson-shaken-baby-syndrome-case-rcna175696 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-set-execute-rober...
      - gosub100 2y ago
        False equivalency
        mcmcmc 2y ago
        How? Spouting off the name of a logical fallacy is not a good faith response
        gosub100 2y ago
        Because spouting off the name of one person wrongfully convicted is meaningless. I didn't deny there are miscarriages of justice in any country. Iran's civil rights record is among the bottom in the world, bested only by NK and other hell holes.
        deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]
  - 3abiton 2y ago
    I think there is a basis for such worry, "Why Nation Fails" highlight the aspects of corruption and non-independent/transparent judiciary system and absue of police force as a big reasons why countries fail. And if you want to compare western police force corruption to others, I invite you to check what happened in egypt 10 yo.
  - derefr 2y ago
    What name would you prefer for the category that includes Myanmar, Turkmenistan, and Eritrea?
    - atemerev 2y ago
      and Russia, Turkey, China, Hungary, UAE, and recently the United States of America.
fsflover 2y ago
> strongly associated with the darkest corner of the Internet in my mind Just like Tor? https://support.torproject.org/#abuse_what-about-criminals https://support.torproject.org/#abuse_what-about-criminals
- Retr0id 2y ago
  Tor is substantially more mainstream, in terms of awareness and perception.
01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
I live in the USA and my ISP has never bothered me for running Tor or I2P. I even ran a Tor relay (non-exit node) for a little bit.
- titaniumtown 2y ago
  i tried running a tor relay and all hell broke loose with websites simply refusing to provide service and the such. not good!
  - BSDobelix 2y ago
    Exit-node right?
    - titaniumtown 2y ago
      no, a relay
      - BSDobelix 2y ago
        What country is that? ISP?
        titaniumtown 2y ago
        Spectrum, United States
  - hurutparittya 2y ago
    Exit node or relay?
    - titaniumtown 2y ago
      relay
  - matheusmoreira 2y ago
    They do that because Tor users are a minority. The only way to combat this sort of discrimination is to convince a large number of people to use Tor. They can't afford to single us out if everyone is doing it.
atemerev 2y ago
I don't think authorities worry about I2P at this point, it is too small and requires some technical expertise to use. It is however much more anonymous and privacy-preserving than Tor, so yes, some corners are dark enough (you will rarely encounter them unless you want to go there, and from technical point of view, I2P is really interesting).
alex_duf 2y ago
I have used it more than 10 years ago, and can confirm there's some horrible stuff on there. I didn't even have to search for it. Needless to say I've turned it off swiftly. I don't know how it is today but I can recommend to stay away from it.

seanw444 2y ago

Unless you live in a third-world country, I don't think you have to worry much, especially if you live a very uncontroversial life.

_lvbh 2y ago
Most 3rd world countries aren't advanced enough to catch you anyways. I'd be more worried in parts of the EU or UK
- a5c11 2y ago
  In 3rd world countries they don't care about piracy, drug dealing, or inappropriate content, but they do care about what you're saying about government. In first world countries it's the exact opposite, you can openly criticize government, hell you can make fun of politicians, but better watch out when looking for pirated content.
ignoramous 2y ago
> Unless you live in a third-world country... Funny how some people fantasize all the autocratic, dystopian shit must always be going down in the "third world". Too much Hollywood.
- gosub100 2y ago
  Would you rather have a judicial "miscalculation" happen to you in the US or Iran?
  - Jochim 2y ago
    The US will happily execute someone who could very well be innocent. Robert Robertson is currently alive on a technicality[0]. [0] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-set-execute-robert-roberson-shaken-baby-syndrome-case-rcna175696 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-set-execute-rober...
    - gosub100 2y ago
      False equivalency
      - mcmcmc 2y ago
        How? Spouting off the name of a logical fallacy is not a good faith response
        gosub100 2y ago
        Because spouting off the name of one person wrongfully convicted is meaningless. I didn't deny there are miscarriages of justice in any country. Iran's civil rights record is among the bottom in the world, bested only by NK and other hell holes.
        deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]
- 3abiton 2y ago
  I think there is a basis for such worry, "Why Nation Fails" highlight the aspects of corruption and non-independent/transparent judiciary system and absue of police force as a big reasons why countries fail. And if you want to compare western police force corruption to others, I invite you to check what happened in egypt 10 yo.
- derefr 2y ago
  What name would you prefer for the category that includes Myanmar, Turkmenistan, and Eritrea?
  - atemerev 2y ago
    and Russia, Turkey, China, Hungary, UAE, and recently the United States of America.

fsflover 2y ago

> strongly associated with the darkest corner of the Internet in my mind Just like Tor? https://support.torproject.org/#abuse_what-about-criminals https://support.torproject.org/#abuse_what-about-criminals

Retr0id 2y ago
Tor is substantially more mainstream, in terms of awareness and perception.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago

I live in the USA and my ISP has never bothered me for running Tor or I2P. I even ran a Tor relay (non-exit node) for a little bit.

titaniumtown 2y ago
i tried running a tor relay and all hell broke loose with websites simply refusing to provide service and the such. not good!
- BSDobelix 2y ago
  Exit-node right?
  - titaniumtown 2y ago
    no, a relay
    - BSDobelix 2y ago
      What country is that? ISP?
      - titaniumtown 2y ago
        Spectrum, United States
- hurutparittya 2y ago
  Exit node or relay?
  - titaniumtown 2y ago
    relay
- matheusmoreira 2y ago
  They do that because Tor users are a minority. The only way to combat this sort of discrimination is to convince a large number of people to use Tor. They can't afford to single us out if everyone is doing it.

atemerev 2y ago

I don't think authorities worry about I2P at this point, it is too small and requires some technical expertise to use. It is however much more anonymous and privacy-preserving than Tor, so yes, some corners are dark enough (you will rarely encounter them unless you want to go there, and from technical point of view, I2P is really interesting).

alex_duf 2y ago

I have used it more than 10 years ago, and can confirm there's some horrible stuff on there. I didn't even have to search for it. Needless to say I've turned it off swiftly. I don't know how it is today but I can recommend to stay away from it.