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Times leadership knew this was coming and dragged their feet on negotiating.

conartist6 2y ago
I don't doubt it. While I wholeheartedly support their legal right to organize, I am not required to celebrate at the cynicism of attempting to undermine faith in democracy to win a better job
- soco 2y ago
  I'm not sure how organizing a strike is undermining the faith in democracy, looks to me rather the other way around.
- dbalatero 2y ago
  > I am not required to celebrate at the cynicism of attempting to undermine faith in democracy to win a better job You're being melodramatic. There are piles of news sources to choose from, absent NYT. And that assumes it falls over due to the strike, although it seems likely they need workers on hand to do ops.
  - conartist6 2y ago
    I am being a bit melodramatic, yes. My working assumption is that the services they offer are critical enough that management will somehow make sure they stand up, because it is their obligation to me as their customer to do so. But with there being such a strong probability that there will be coordinated far-right attempts to undermine faith in our system of elections tomorrow, I do really do think of tomorrow as a kind of holy day for democracy that is not acceptable to use as bargaining chip.
    - School-Cotton 2y ago
      > I do really do think of tomorrow as a kind of holy day for democracy that is not acceptable to use as bargaining chip. Nothing about an election where only the votes of people in 7 states out of 50 matter can possibly be "holy" for democracy. I don't need the far-right to undermine faith in our system of elections; I'm not far-right and have never had any faith in it to begin with.
- bwestergard 2y ago
  There are many other excellent news sources. I suggest NPR, The LA Times, or the Washington Post.
  - conartist6 2y ago
    Did Wapo roll back their cost-saving plan to coerce their reporters into using AI to write the news?
- randomdata 2y ago
  > attempting to undermine faith in democracy Election day, assuming that is what you are referring to, is the least important day in democracy. It is every day after the person is hired, when you stay on top of them and communicate your expectations to them, when democracy happens.
- keybored 2y ago
  > While I wholeheartedly support their legal right to organize, I am not required to celebrate at the cynicism of attempting to undermine faith in democracy to win a better job I’m not gonna support your cynical anti-union, anti-worker policy of blaming everything on the part of the workers while dismissing the management side with a “I don’t doubt it”. Two can play this game.

I don't doubt it. While I wholeheartedly support their legal right to organize, I am not required to celebrate at the cynicism of attempting to undermine faith in democracy to win a better job

soco 2y ago
I'm not sure how organizing a strike is undermining the faith in democracy, looks to me rather the other way around.
dbalatero 2y ago
> I am not required to celebrate at the cynicism of attempting to undermine faith in democracy to win a better job You're being melodramatic. There are piles of news sources to choose from, absent NYT. And that assumes it falls over due to the strike, although it seems likely they need workers on hand to do ops.
- conartist6 2y ago
  I am being a bit melodramatic, yes. My working assumption is that the services they offer are critical enough that management will somehow make sure they stand up, because it is their obligation to me as their customer to do so. But with there being such a strong probability that there will be coordinated far-right attempts to undermine faith in our system of elections tomorrow, I do really do think of tomorrow as a kind of holy day for democracy that is not acceptable to use as bargaining chip.
  - School-Cotton 2y ago
    > I do really do think of tomorrow as a kind of holy day for democracy that is not acceptable to use as bargaining chip. Nothing about an election where only the votes of people in 7 states out of 50 matter can possibly be "holy" for democracy. I don't need the far-right to undermine faith in our system of elections; I'm not far-right and have never had any faith in it to begin with.
bwestergard 2y ago
There are many other excellent news sources. I suggest NPR, The LA Times, or the Washington Post.
- conartist6 2y ago
  Did Wapo roll back their cost-saving plan to coerce their reporters into using AI to write the news?
randomdata 2y ago
> attempting to undermine faith in democracy Election day, assuming that is what you are referring to, is the least important day in democracy. It is every day after the person is hired, when you stay on top of them and communicate your expectations to them, when democracy happens.
keybored 2y ago
> While I wholeheartedly support their legal right to organize, I am not required to celebrate at the cynicism of attempting to undermine faith in democracy to win a better job I’m not gonna support your cynical anti-union, anti-worker policy of blaming everything on the part of the workers while dismissing the management side with a “I don’t doubt it”. Two can play this game.