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This looks like the UI just scales well to fill an empty screen? In my experience Gnome Apps are always generous with padding however they scale down gracefully

by c0balt 2y ago

This looks like the UI just scales well to fill an empty screen? In my experience Gnome Apps are always generous with padding however they scale down gracefully with window size.

robinsonb5 2y ago
Really? To my eyes it's a UI that doesn't scale well, and doggedly maintains an aspect ratio that doesn't match the window dimensions. I can see some value in not spreading the buttons across a vast horizontal swathe of window - much as one doesn't fill a widescreen monitor with a single column of text - but there's no excuse for the waveform not making full use of the available screen width.
- thrw42A8N 2y ago
  So it'd fill out of the card? So weird. I really don't see an issue with the ui.
  - robinsonb5 2y ago
    It shouldn't spill out of the card - my problem is with the card itself. Or at least, the fact that the card hasn't expanded to make use of the window which contains it. But then I'm coming at it from the angle of someone who views VCD files in GtkWave, and thus expects to see as much useful information as possible in a waveform view. If it's just superficial decoration then I guess it's fine.
    - thrw42A8N 2y ago
      Yeah this is really not the app to get detailed waveform info from... Even if it was wide it probably wouldn't tell you much - it's just a decoration.
- jitl 2y ago
  I disagree here. For this, a memo application, I think the metadata (date, length, name, etc) is the true content here you’d want to scan, not the actual waveform itself. There’s some content like images that should scale to full bleed just fine, but for something like a table row, as-narrow-as-sensible is better for usability even if there’s a lot of unused horizontal space, because there’s not advantage to making the eye scan across a wider distance. The same goes for the width of paragraph text in general. A paragraph stretched to full screen width is much harder to read than a paragraph wrapped at paperback book width. If wide paragraphs were better, books would have a different aspect ratio.
diggan 2y ago
> however they scale down gracefully with window size Can confirm. Screenshot of the minimum width, the paddings all disappear: https://i.imgur.com/iv7frHI.png https://i.imgur.com/iv7frHI.png

by c0balt 2y ago

This looks like the UI just scales well to fill an empty screen? In my experience Gnome Apps are always generous with padding however they scale down gracefully with window size.

robinsonb5 2y ago

Really? To my eyes it's a UI that doesn't scale well, and doggedly maintains an aspect ratio that doesn't match the window dimensions. I can see some value in not spreading the buttons across a vast horizontal swathe of window - much as one doesn't fill a widescreen monitor with a single column of text - but there's no excuse for the waveform not making full use of the available screen width.

thrw42A8N 2y ago
So it'd fill out of the card? So weird. I really don't see an issue with the ui.
- robinsonb5 2y ago
  It shouldn't spill out of the card - my problem is with the card itself. Or at least, the fact that the card hasn't expanded to make use of the window which contains it. But then I'm coming at it from the angle of someone who views VCD files in GtkWave, and thus expects to see as much useful information as possible in a waveform view. If it's just superficial decoration then I guess it's fine.
  - thrw42A8N 2y ago
    Yeah this is really not the app to get detailed waveform info from... Even if it was wide it probably wouldn't tell you much - it's just a decoration.
jitl 2y ago
I disagree here. For this, a memo application, I think the metadata (date, length, name, etc) is the true content here you’d want to scan, not the actual waveform itself. There’s some content like images that should scale to full bleed just fine, but for something like a table row, as-narrow-as-sensible is better for usability even if there’s a lot of unused horizontal space, because there’s not advantage to making the eye scan across a wider distance. The same goes for the width of paragraph text in general. A paragraph stretched to full screen width is much harder to read than a paragraph wrapped at paperback book width. If wide paragraphs were better, books would have a different aspect ratio.

diggan 2y ago

> however they scale down gracefully with window size Can confirm. Screenshot of the minimum width, the paddings all disappear: https://i.imgur.com/iv7frHI.png https://i.imgur.com/iv7frHI.png