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> But the overall 'subscription everything' model is not really justified by costs Probably shouldn't subscribe then ...

by dools 2y ago

zdragnar 2y ago
I think the argument is that you shouldn't choose to price a product as a subscription simply because you have recurring costs. If I subscribe to a magazine or a streaming service, I continually get new content. Apps that aren't doing that are basically price gouging customers.
- hanifc 2y ago
  It’s nice of you to consider the wellbeing of other users, but I think every adult has the right to make their own decisions about how to spend their money. If it’s not a price you’re willing to pay, that’s fine. But if someone else gets value out of it and thinks it’s a fair trade, that’s between them and the app creator.
  - simoncion 2y ago
    > But if someone else gets value out of it and thinks it’s a fair trade, that’s between them and the app creator. Since we're apparently now doing Freshman Civics: There are many sorts of transactions that someone would get value from and think are a fair trade, but are prohibited for one reason or another. Even for those somewhat-antisocial transactions that aren't prohibited, there's no rule that says that you can't complain about how those transactions could be more pro-social.
    - oasisaimlessly 2y ago
      > Even for those somewhat-antisocial transactions that aren't prohibited, there's no rule that says that you can't complain about how those transactions could be more pro-social. Yeah, and there's also no rule that says that other people can't tell you to shut up.
      - AlexeyBelov 2y ago
        Why do you feel the need to tell them to shut up?
- _flux 2y ago
  How about the argument that having recurring income incentivizes further development, whereas single-pay fees incentivize customer acquisition?
  - zdragnar 2y ago
    That's called gambling. Pay me now and maybe you'll like what comes next!
    - _flux 2y ago
      And the customers don't like it, they can stop paying. Seems like a risk to the author. Keeping existing customers is typically easier than getting new ones.

> But the overall 'subscription everything' model is not really justified by costs Probably shouldn't subscribe then ...

by dools 2y ago

> But the overall 'subscription everything' model is not really justified by costs Probably shouldn't subscribe then ...

zdragnar 2y ago

I think the argument is that you shouldn't choose to price a product as a subscription simply because you have recurring costs. If I subscribe to a magazine or a streaming service, I continually get new content. Apps that aren't doing that are basically price gouging customers.

hanifc 2y ago
It’s nice of you to consider the wellbeing of other users, but I think every adult has the right to make their own decisions about how to spend their money. If it’s not a price you’re willing to pay, that’s fine. But if someone else gets value out of it and thinks it’s a fair trade, that’s between them and the app creator.
- simoncion 2y ago
  > But if someone else gets value out of it and thinks it’s a fair trade, that’s between them and the app creator. Since we're apparently now doing Freshman Civics: There are many sorts of transactions that someone would get value from and think are a fair trade, but are prohibited for one reason or another. Even for those somewhat-antisocial transactions that aren't prohibited, there's no rule that says that you can't complain about how those transactions could be more pro-social.
  - oasisaimlessly 2y ago
    > Even for those somewhat-antisocial transactions that aren't prohibited, there's no rule that says that you can't complain about how those transactions could be more pro-social. Yeah, and there's also no rule that says that other people can't tell you to shut up.
    - AlexeyBelov 2y ago
      Why do you feel the need to tell them to shut up?
_flux 2y ago
How about the argument that having recurring income incentivizes further development, whereas single-pay fees incentivize customer acquisition?
- zdragnar 2y ago
  That's called gambling. Pay me now and maybe you'll like what comes next!
  - _flux 2y ago
    And the customers don't like it, they can stop paying. Seems like a risk to the author. Keeping existing customers is typically easier than getting new ones.