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Turns out many people don't care to change their distribution defaults.

• oblio 2y ago
  Exactly, because I don't care about the plumbing in my house unless it's really bad. Systemd is opinionated and quirky but it does the job just fine for 99.999% of people and it provides a standardized approach to things just by virtue of how it works, and there is a lot of value in that.
  • akira2501 2y ago
    The real question is would anything else also be able to do 99.9999% of the job with less code and better semantics. People seem to think it is.
    • oblio 2y ago
      Poettering actually took his idea to completion. A lot of people claim the same, but the proof is in the real life pudding. Don't forget that geeks idealize perfection and especially minimalist perfection.
      • akira2501 2y ago
        > Poettering actually took his idea to completion. One of them. The others didn't work out so well. That's a curiosity in and of itself. > A lot of people claim the same, but the proof is in the real life pudding. Those claims are true. Those systems exist. People use them. Every day. I've got tons of business riding on them. Systemd's defaults are simply a non starter for any real production environment. > Don't forget that geeks idealize perfection and especially minimalist perfection. They prefer a system which leaves the options open. Systemd removes them in the name of simplistic cohesion. It's all based on the flawed idea that linux will ever be a popular desktop operating system if you just make it work like windows does. It misses the point on what computing is entirely, but hey, as long as it's "complete" implementation of this flawed vision I guess that's good enough for some people. And yet we're still no where near windows.