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>Small other complaint, anyone using SMS should get auto ignored on Apple now, or at least a setting for auto-ignore messages that aren’t iMessage or RCS This

by curt15 2y ago

>Small other complaint, anyone using SMS should get auto ignored on Apple now, or at least a setting for auto-ignore messages that aren’t iMessage or RCS This would exclude any people who aren't on mobile data all the time. If iMessage becomes an Internet only messaging platform, it would have no compelling edge over Signal or WhatsApp.

Kwpolska 2y ago
It already is an Internet-only messaging platform, and its compelling edge and sole reason why people care about the blue/green bubble thing is being installed by default on iOS.
- acdha 2y ago
  People care because it’s enormously better than SMS and also better than RCS. Nobody would care if green didn’t mean things like no guarantee of better than same-day message delivery.
  - Kwpolska 2y ago
    People outside of the US have solved this problem by adopting an OS-agnostic Internet-based messaging platform like WhatsApp, Signal, Facebook Messenger, or Telegram. There are one or two people I exchange SMS messages with, but other than that, my SMS inbox is full of automated notifications, and the actual chats happen elsewhere.
    - acdha 2y ago
      So where does that leave the theory that iMessage’s “compelling edge and sole reason why people care about the blue/green bubble thing is being installed by default on iOS”? WhatsApp, et al. are not the default on any platform but appear to be doing fine.
      - Kwpolska 2y ago
        WhatsApp et al. are doing fine and are the primary choice in Europe. But in the US, for some reason, people prefer not installing messaging apps, and instead keep the default messaging app, which means iMessage on iOS.
        acdha 2y ago
        Most Americans have those apps installed, too, so it’s probably not the app being the default - as it is everywhere - but something else about social graphs. Looking at the data vs. SMS pricing 1-2 decades ago is one explanation I’ve heard but there are likely others.

by curt15 2y ago

Kwpolska 2y ago

It already is an Internet-only messaging platform, and its compelling edge and sole reason why people care about the blue/green bubble thing is being installed by default on iOS.

acdha 2y ago
People care because it’s enormously better than SMS and also better than RCS. Nobody would care if green didn’t mean things like no guarantee of better than same-day message delivery.
- Kwpolska 2y ago
  People outside of the US have solved this problem by adopting an OS-agnostic Internet-based messaging platform like WhatsApp, Signal, Facebook Messenger, or Telegram. There are one or two people I exchange SMS messages with, but other than that, my SMS inbox is full of automated notifications, and the actual chats happen elsewhere.
  - acdha 2y ago
    So where does that leave the theory that iMessage’s “compelling edge and sole reason why people care about the blue/green bubble thing is being installed by default on iOS”? WhatsApp, et al. are not the default on any platform but appear to be doing fine.
    - Kwpolska 2y ago
      WhatsApp et al. are doing fine and are the primary choice in Europe. But in the US, for some reason, people prefer not installing messaging apps, and instead keep the default messaging app, which means iMessage on iOS.
      - acdha 2y ago
        Most Americans have those apps installed, too, so it’s probably not the app being the default - as it is everywhere - but something else about social graphs. Looking at the data vs. SMS pricing 1-2 decades ago is one explanation I’ve heard but there are likely others.