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I think apples adoption of RCS is good, but it lacks IMHO two huge things. 1. A better warning to users (other than being green) that RCS messages are NOT end t
by 486sx33 2y ago
I think apples adoption of RCS is good, but it lacks IMHO two huge things. 1. A better warning to users (other than being green) that RCS messages are NOT end to end encrypted and that your conversation is an RCS conversation. 2. Force read responses from the other party should be enabled.
Small other complaint, anyone using SMS should get auto ignored on Apple now, or at least a setting for auto-ignore messages that aren’t iMessage or RCS
- MiddleEndian 2y ago>Small other complaint, anyone using SMS should get auto ignored on Apple now, or at least a setting for auto-ignore messages that aren’t iMessage or RCS I dunno man, RCS is pretty unreliable, even in Android-to-Android communications. SMS is your standard fallback. Honestly I try avoid the whole thing and prefer to use Telegram or FB Messenger, which also have the benefits of reasonably well on computers.
- curt15 2y ago>Small other complaint, anyone using SMS should get auto ignored on Apple now, or at least a setting for auto-ignore messages that aren’t iMessage or RCS This would exclude any people who aren't on mobile data all the time. If iMessage becomes an Internet only messaging platform, it would have no compelling edge over Signal or WhatsApp.
- Kwpolska 2y agoIt already is an Internet-only messaging platform, and its compelling edge and sole reason why people care about the blue/green bubble thing is being installed by default on iOS.
- acdha 2y agoPeople care because it’s enormously better than SMS and also better than RCS. Nobody would care if green didn’t mean things like no guarantee of better than same-day message delivery.
- Kwpolska 2y agoPeople outside of the US have solved this problem by adopting an OS-agnostic Internet-based messaging platform like WhatsApp, Signal, Facebook Messenger, or Telegram. There are one or two people I exchange SMS messages with, but other than that, my SMS inbox is full of automated notifications, and the actual chats happen elsewhere.
- acdha 2y agoSo where does that leave the theory that iMessage’s “compelling edge and sole reason why people care about the blue/green bubble thing is being installed by default on iOS”? WhatsApp, et al. are not the default on any platform but appear to be doing fine.
- Kwpolska 2y agoWhatsApp et al. are doing fine and are the primary choice in Europe. But in the US, for some reason, people prefer not installing messaging apps, and instead keep the default messaging app, which means iMessage on iOS.
- acdha 2y agoMost Americans have those apps installed, too, so it’s probably not the app being the default - as it is everywhere - but something else about social graphs. Looking at the data vs. SMS pricing 1-2 decades ago is one explanation I’ve heard but there are likely others.
- crazygringo 2y ago1. Being green is fine. Why do you need a second differentiator? Green has always been without E2EE and continues to be without. The last thing I want is some extra icon adding visual noise. 2. Forcing read receipts, you mean? Absolutely not. The ability to turn off read receipts is vital for privacy. Nobody should be forcing anything there. > Small other complaint, anyone using SMS should get auto ignored on Apple now Please don't. The messages I send fall back to SMS when I don't have good data connectivity, which happens all the time on the go. Why should my messages be auto-ignored because of my connectivity issues?
- spankalee 2y agoSo you're saying I should never be able to text iPhone users? Great.
- smitelli 2y agoI would hazard a guess that most iMessage users don’t associate blue == E2EE. Even if it were made explicit, how many would care?