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WW3 with Russia+China+NorthKorea (and maybe various middle-east) is kinda scary. And it might start when they seize Taiwan like Russia Ukraine, how would we st

by ck2 2y ago

WW3 with Russia+China+NorthKorea (and maybe various middle-east) is kinda scary. And it might start when they seize Taiwan like Russia Ukraine, how would we stop them in the slightest when we can't stop the seizure of Ukraine? No-one has convinced me yet that Putin isn't going to start executing generals (or falling from 3rd story) until one is willing to push the button when he's finally on his deathbed.

csa 2y ago
> how would we stop them in the slightest when we can't stop the seizure of Ukraine? We (US) could have and can stop the seizure of Ukraine fairly easily, imho. We have chosen not to do so directly in an effort to prevent WW3 and/or nuclear weapon use. > No-one has convinced me yet that Putin isn't going to start executing generals (or falling from 3rd story) until one is willing to push the button when he's finally on his deathbed. You’re not wrong, but his successor, or whoever thinks they may be his successor, will probably prevent that from happening. So many of them have czarist ambitions, and Putin has laid the groundwork.
teaearlgraycold 2y ago
China is playing both sides here. They want to go for Taiwan - but they aren't forming anything like the WW2 Axis powers.
dudefeliciano 2y ago
> we can't stop the seizure of Ukraine we could, but evidently we are not willing to. If Taiwan were taken perhaps the response would be different and we would not be as passive anymore. One thing sure, Xi noticed the weak response in Ukraine.
feedforward 2y ago
> And it might start when they seize Taiwan like Russia Ukraine, how would we stop them in the slightest when we can't stop the seizure of Ukraine? Russian troops were in the Crimea back when British redcoats were stationed in New York City, so I don't know exactly when this "seizure" of the Crimea by Russia is supposed to have happened. Taiwan is Kinmen island, which sits inside the harbor of the city of Xiamen in mainland China. The PRC, the US and the Taipei government all recognize Taiwan and the mainland as the same country. So I don't know how or why "we" would try to stop the Standing Committee from going into Taiwan - the island in their own harbor. Kind of a laugh to look at the shock of a "payoff' by Russia, when the US is doing bigger payoffs to countries all around the world.
- aguaviva 2y ago
  Russian troops were in the Crimea back when British redcoats were stationed in New York City, so I don't know exactly when this "seizure" of the Crimea by Russia is supposed to have happened. So if the Redcoats were to come back to New York today, and started acting like they ran the place, they wouldn't be "seizing" anything, but rather just going back to the place they once were, is what you seem to be saying. Or if they did "seize" it, you wouldn't know when it was supposed to have happened.
  - feedforward 2y ago
    The redcoats left in the 18th century. The Russuan military was, and has been, in the Crimea since before that.
    - aguaviva 2y ago
      The French military was in Algeria from 1830-1962. Does that mean they can go back and occupy it anytime they want to?

by ck2 2y ago

csa 2y ago

> how would we stop them in the slightest when we can't stop the seizure of Ukraine? We (US) could have and can stop the seizure of Ukraine fairly easily, imho. We have chosen not to do so directly in an effort to prevent WW3 and/or nuclear weapon use. > No-one has convinced me yet that Putin isn't going to start executing generals (or falling from 3rd story) until one is willing to push the button when he's finally on his deathbed. You’re not wrong, but his successor, or whoever thinks they may be his successor, will probably prevent that from happening. So many of them have czarist ambitions, and Putin has laid the groundwork.

teaearlgraycold 2y ago

China is playing both sides here. They want to go for Taiwan - but they aren't forming anything like the WW2 Axis powers.

dudefeliciano 2y ago

> we can't stop the seizure of Ukraine we could, but evidently we are not willing to. If Taiwan were taken perhaps the response would be different and we would not be as passive anymore. One thing sure, Xi noticed the weak response in Ukraine.

feedforward 2y ago

> And it might start when they seize Taiwan like Russia Ukraine, how would we stop them in the slightest when we can't stop the seizure of Ukraine? Russian troops were in the Crimea back when British redcoats were stationed in New York City, so I don't know exactly when this "seizure" of the Crimea by Russia is supposed to have happened. Taiwan is Kinmen island, which sits inside the harbor of the city of Xiamen in mainland China. The PRC, the US and the Taipei government all recognize Taiwan and the mainland as the same country. So I don't know how or why "we" would try to stop the Standing Committee from going into Taiwan - the island in their own harbor. Kind of a laugh to look at the shock of a "payoff' by Russia, when the US is doing bigger payoffs to countries all around the world.

aguaviva 2y ago
Russian troops were in the Crimea back when British redcoats were stationed in New York City, so I don't know exactly when this "seizure" of the Crimea by Russia is supposed to have happened. So if the Redcoats were to come back to New York today, and started acting like they ran the place, they wouldn't be "seizing" anything, but rather just going back to the place they once were, is what you seem to be saying. Or if they did "seize" it, you wouldn't know when it was supposed to have happened.
- feedforward 2y ago
  The redcoats left in the 18th century. The Russuan military was, and has been, in the Crimea since before that.
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    The French military was in Algeria from 1830-1962. Does that mean they can go back and occupy it anytime they want to?