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My current take is that culture is just path-dependent[0] interpretations of pretty much the same situation [1] [0]large mean time between scattering events, e

My current take is that culture is just path-dependent[0] interpretations of pretty much the same situation [1] [0]large mean time between scattering events, e.g. number and make-up of parties dont change very much since the last time the current system became barely-functional (we take on socio-technical debt before we have actual social tech??) as it is, 1789 was a bit too long ago for founder-mode, may halloween continue to console us! [1]more tk. it seems mostly everyone is tripartite. Tripartism, has its own en.wikipage! But more research on YYA’s taxonomy is required of me.

082349872349872 2y ago
If you take the interpretation —as I do— that 1984 was a bunch of fast-forward* around the message that Orwell wanted to write, then it also says: a/ everyone is tripartite b/ every now and then, mid and high circulate, often by appeal to the low c/ as soon as the old mid becomes the new high, they forget their promises which is completely in keeping with what he said in Animal Farm. (did he have a third book on the topic?) {a: PIE, b: Veblen, c: Machiavelli}? (I recently learned the chinese latin TLA "SPA" from a Zhihu question about the PRC equivalent of the low) * not completely fast forward: one sentence of the last narrative explains why the Man even bothers to keep the low down: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40023059 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40023059 EDIT: on Tripartism, yeah, a large part of our current "The Middle" party was previously known as Christian Democrats.
- gradschoolfail 2y ago
  Re:cruelty/VPS/offering struggle Not sure if the sage is allowed cruelty(=irreversibilty?<= deluging), more sure that the sage is forbidden from enjoying it (or even signalling its enjoyment, cf Not-Hillel)
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    That may be why a common definition of cruelty is being unnecessarily unpleasant: the Lords/Ladies of Instrumentality would say, it's not me, this just falls out of the Lagrangian, and yes it was horrible yet I was but the instrument. (compare the original words to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6m9SusjNYk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6m9SusjNYk ) The chinese note a tension between 霸 and 王 , do they also note one between 正 and 仁? Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92WwPFDn_xM#t=90s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92WwPFDn_xM#t=90s
    - gradschoolfail 2y ago
      Hmm, no pro-logicians interested yet? Is it because logic is such a gradual domain.. would it move you beyond knowing just the name* to note that i’ve been involved with … experiments?? (Im a fan of <<Experimental Mathematics>> tho this is 2 steps removed, shall we call it “Experimental Logic”?) To whether its common or uncommon, depends on how deep you want to look, i guess! *Check out DP-G and TSC’s 2020 update, where their Ham doesnt seem so contrived, and in fact, closer to, let’s say, the-country-that-shall-not-be-renamed. Are the chinese paying attention??!! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42039941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42039941 Citation on the tension? I suspect the tension isn’t between elite-driven and anarchism*. No time to hunt for a item i saw a while back here (its “everywhere”) observing that you cant see any of the supposedly cataclysmic events of the XX (& XIX?) on the emissions chart.. perhaps we should explore (cue tony blair’s victory song) the tension between inflation and deflation instead? *https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031606 [maybe Einstein saw Goedel as Spinoza reincarnate, pity he hadnt heard about MPB (or even RPF/AG] PS hadnt seen the PC article, thanks! The content is very familiar.. however.
      - 082349872349872 2y ago
        Hmm... can't find a source (by 1800 it's already trad.) for "he who causes two blades of grass to grow where one did before, is a greater benefactor to society, than {he who conquers kingdoms, all the politicians of a land, etc.}" How long before we have Gravitational Engineers? EDIT: as to pro-logician (in the proset sense) JYG is the closest I know of, and for him physics is more than one applicational layer away. (I find presenting boolean truth tables makes the foundational q's that bother him disappear for me. A gramme is better than a damn!) EDIT2: [multivariate, wlog] calculus works because things have interiors and exteriors, so in the sense of highly leveraging containment/implication, that'd be an advanced application of logic? (compare CSP's existential graphs) EDIT3: wow, looking at china vs india (esp. the crossing!), we can really see the power of: if your time horizon is... 1 year plant rice 10 years plant trees 100 years educate people I think I need to be less contemptuous of popularisation!
      - 082349872349872 2y ago

082349872349872 2y ago

If you take the interpretation —as I do— that 1984 was a bunch of fast-forward* around the message that Orwell wanted to write, then it also says: a/ everyone is tripartite b/ every now and then, mid and high circulate, often by appeal to the low c/ as soon as the old mid becomes the new high, they forget their promises which is completely in keeping with what he said in Animal Farm. (did he have a third book on the topic?) {a: PIE, b: Veblen, c: Machiavelli}? (I recently learned the chinese latin TLA "SPA" from a Zhihu question about the PRC equivalent of the low) * not completely fast forward: one sentence of the last narrative explains why the Man even bothers to keep the low down: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40023059 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40023059 EDIT: on Tripartism, yeah, a large part of our current "The Middle" party was previously known as Christian Democrats.

gradschoolfail 2y ago
Re:cruelty/VPS/offering struggle Not sure if the sage is allowed cruelty(=irreversibilty?<= deluging), more sure that the sage is forbidden from enjoying it (or even signalling its enjoyment, cf Not-Hillel)
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  That may be why a common definition of cruelty is being unnecessarily unpleasant: the Lords/Ladies of Instrumentality would say, it's not me, this just falls out of the Lagrangian, and yes it was horrible yet I was but the instrument. (compare the original words to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6m9SusjNYk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6m9SusjNYk ) The chinese note a tension between 霸 and 王 , do they also note one between 正 and 仁? Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92WwPFDn_xM#t=90s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92WwPFDn_xM#t=90s
  - gradschoolfail 2y ago
    Hmm, no pro-logicians interested yet? Is it because logic is such a gradual domain.. would it move you beyond knowing just the name* to note that i’ve been involved with … experiments?? (Im a fan of <<Experimental Mathematics>> tho this is 2 steps removed, shall we call it “Experimental Logic”?) To whether its common or uncommon, depends on how deep you want to look, i guess! *Check out DP-G and TSC’s 2020 update, where their Ham doesnt seem so contrived, and in fact, closer to, let’s say, the-country-that-shall-not-be-renamed. Are the chinese paying attention??!! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42039941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42039941 Citation on the tension? I suspect the tension isn’t between elite-driven and anarchism*. No time to hunt for a item i saw a while back here (its “everywhere”) observing that you cant see any of the supposedly cataclysmic events of the XX (& XIX?) on the emissions chart.. perhaps we should explore (cue tony blair’s victory song) the tension between inflation and deflation instead? *https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42031606 [maybe Einstein saw Goedel as Spinoza reincarnate, pity he hadnt heard about MPB (or even RPF/AG] PS hadnt seen the PC article, thanks! The content is very familiar.. however.
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      Hmm... can't find a source (by 1800 it's already trad.) for "he who causes two blades of grass to grow where one did before, is a greater benefactor to society, than {he who conquers kingdoms, all the politicians of a land, etc.}" How long before we have Gravitational Engineers? EDIT: as to pro-logician (in the proset sense) JYG is the closest I know of, and for him physics is more than one applicational layer away. (I find presenting boolean truth tables makes the foundational q's that bother him disappear for me. A gramme is better than a damn!) EDIT2: [multivariate, wlog] calculus works because things have interiors and exteriors, so in the sense of highly leveraging containment/implication, that'd be an advanced application of logic? (compare CSP's existential graphs) EDIT3: wow, looking at china vs india (esp. the crossing!), we can really see the power of: if your time horizon is... 1 year plant rice 10 years plant trees 100 years educate people I think I need to be less contemptuous of popularisation!
    - 082349872349872 2y ago