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Once you look past individual anecdotes, the actual rate of voter fraud with mail voting is tiny compared to the voting population. https://www.washingtonpost.c

Once you look past individual anecdotes, the actual rate of voter fraud with mail voting is tiny compared to the voting population. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/minuscule-number-of-potentially-fraudulent-ballots-in-states-with-universal-mail-voting-undercuts-trump-claims-about-election-risks/2020/06/08/1e78aa26-a5c5-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/minuscule-number-of-...

gruez 2y ago
>Once you look past individual anecdotes, the actual rate of voter fraud with mail voting is tiny compared to the voting population. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/minuscule-number-of- https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/minuscule-number-of-... that's hardly reassuring given how close this election is going predicted to be. >The median scenario from our forecast has Ms Harris winning her pivotal 270th electoral-college vote by less than half a percentage point. https://archive.is/uk388 https://archive.is/uk388 https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/10/31/what-to-watch-for-on-election-night-and-beyond https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/10/31/what-to-w...
- crooked-v 2y ago
  Half a percentage point is orders of magnitude bigger than a 0.0025% fraud rate.
  - zmgsabst 2y ago
    That fraud rate is obviously wrong: There’s more than 4000 questionable ballots in the entire US election.
    - gruez 2y ago
      >There’s more than 4000 questionable ballots in the entire US election. source? The most I can find is this: https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/4-000-mail-in-voters-receive-legal-challenge-across-14-counties-update/article_1ad97036-9935-11ef-bb1d-5387a9cc9e78.html https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/4-000-mail-in-voters-... which provides no information for why the ballots were "questionable".
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wannacboatmovie 2y ago
Because of how the electoral college works, and because of how tight the margins are, you don't need to have or enable fraud on a massive scale to cheat. All that's needed is putting your thumb on the scale in a few select jurisdictions and that could tip the scales one way or the other. It's within the realm of probability that the presidential election will be decided by < 50k voters nationwide.
- dghlsakjg 2y ago
  Yep. But you have to know which 50k voters in which state, and be able to put your thumb on the scales without tipping off the dozens of people who are professionally employed to prevent exactly this scenario. More than a few people have been caught trying to cast just a single extra vote. How in the world are you going to pull off a massive conspiracy like in the midst of the most scrutinized election in the world.

gruez 2y ago

>Once you look past individual anecdotes, the actual rate of voter fraud with mail voting is tiny compared to the voting population. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/minuscule-number-of- https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/minuscule-number-of-... that's hardly reassuring given how close this election is going predicted to be. >The median scenario from our forecast has Ms Harris winning her pivotal 270th electoral-college vote by less than half a percentage point. https://archive.is/uk388 https://archive.is/uk388 https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/10/31/what-to-watch-for-on-election-night-and-beyond https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/10/31/what-to-w...

crooked-v 2y ago
Half a percentage point is orders of magnitude bigger than a 0.0025% fraud rate.
- zmgsabst 2y ago
  That fraud rate is obviously wrong: There’s more than 4000 questionable ballots in the entire US election.
  - gruez 2y ago
    >There’s more than 4000 questionable ballots in the entire US election. source? The most I can find is this: https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/4-000-mail-in-voters-receive-legal-challenge-across-14-counties-update/article_1ad97036-9935-11ef-bb1d-5387a9cc9e78.html https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/4-000-mail-in-voters-... which provides no information for why the ballots were "questionable".
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wannacboatmovie 2y ago

Because of how the electoral college works, and because of how tight the margins are, you don't need to have or enable fraud on a massive scale to cheat. All that's needed is putting your thumb on the scale in a few select jurisdictions and that could tip the scales one way or the other. It's within the realm of probability that the presidential election will be decided by < 50k voters nationwide.

dghlsakjg 2y ago
Yep. But you have to know which 50k voters in which state, and be able to put your thumb on the scales without tipping off the dozens of people who are professionally employed to prevent exactly this scenario. More than a few people have been caught trying to cast just a single extra vote. How in the world are you going to pull off a massive conspiracy like in the midst of the most scrutinized election in the world.