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It's been the method of voting in Oregon for 25 years and Colorado for 10 years, when does the regret start? The current states that have all mail voting are al

It's been the method of voting in Oregon for 25 years and Colorado for 10 years, when does the regret start? The current states that have all mail voting are also some of the least religious states in the country, you'd think the religious states would be pushing for it given the scenario you laid out. Colorado also had the second highest voter turn out nationwide in 2020 which supports the claim that all mail voting is good for increasing access to voting.

wannacboatmovie 2y ago
Oregon should never be the gold standard for how to do anything, ever. Can they even pump their own gas yet?
- jeffmcjunkin 2y ago
  Recently, yes :) https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/06/us/oregon-drivers-pump-own-fuel-law/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/06/us/oregon-drivers-pump-own-fu...
  - throw_that_away 2y ago
    Before that changed I LOVED turning the attendants away as I grabbed my Diesel hose and started pumping. I loved telling them when they didn't know.
- mulmen 2y ago
  Ron Wyden seems cool.
oceanplexian 2y ago
Of course mailing ballots increases turnout. That wasn’t the question. The question was how do we determine if the votes are fraudulent, for example someone filling out a ballot for their elderly parents against their will.
- Sparkle-san 2y ago
  Colorado does signature matching and ballot tracking. My signature has changed since I registered to vote here and I was notified in one election about it not matching and had to cure my ballot. If someone voted under my name, I would be notified of the processing of my ballot and could object to it. Ease of voting/security is still an important balance. I could easily create a 100% secure election and it would disenfranchise a lot of voters.
  - ekianjo 2y ago
    > Colorado does signature matching and ballot tracking. Don't know about Colorado but many other states have been sending ballots to dead people as well as people who are not resident anymore. The potential for fraud is huge
    - Sparkle-san 2y ago
      The signature matching would be the first line of defense against that. They would also be notified of deaths by the department of health and the social security administration. Broadly speaking though, whenever potential cases of fraud of investigated, very few end up being substantiated and the fraud that is committed is caught up front. https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-voting-government-and-politics-presidential-299b03156144b12c0298184498f07958 https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-voting-gov... https://www.rmpbs.org/blogs/news/colorado-noncitizens-deceased-voters-elections https://www.rmpbs.org/blogs/news/colorado-noncitizens-deceas...
      - adolph 2y ago
        > They would also be notified of deaths by the department of health and the social security administration. Is your claim that the social security administration sends a death notification to the deceased person's voter registrar? https://www.ssa.gov/dataexchange/stateagreements.html https://www.ssa.gov/dataexchange/stateagreements.html

wannacboatmovie 2y ago

Oregon should never be the gold standard for how to do anything, ever. Can they even pump their own gas yet?

jeffmcjunkin 2y ago
Recently, yes :) https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/06/us/oregon-drivers-pump-own-fuel-law/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/06/us/oregon-drivers-pump-own-fu...
- throw_that_away 2y ago
  Before that changed I LOVED turning the attendants away as I grabbed my Diesel hose and started pumping. I loved telling them when they didn't know.
mulmen 2y ago
Ron Wyden seems cool.

oceanplexian 2y ago

Of course mailing ballots increases turnout. That wasn’t the question. The question was how do we determine if the votes are fraudulent, for example someone filling out a ballot for their elderly parents against their will.

Sparkle-san 2y ago
Colorado does signature matching and ballot tracking. My signature has changed since I registered to vote here and I was notified in one election about it not matching and had to cure my ballot. If someone voted under my name, I would be notified of the processing of my ballot and could object to it. Ease of voting/security is still an important balance. I could easily create a 100% secure election and it would disenfranchise a lot of voters.
- ekianjo 2y ago
  > Colorado does signature matching and ballot tracking. Don't know about Colorado but many other states have been sending ballots to dead people as well as people who are not resident anymore. The potential for fraud is huge
  - Sparkle-san 2y ago
    The signature matching would be the first line of defense against that. They would also be notified of deaths by the department of health and the social security administration. Broadly speaking though, whenever potential cases of fraud of investigated, very few end up being substantiated and the fraud that is committed is caught up front. https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-voting-government-and-politics-presidential-299b03156144b12c0298184498f07958 https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-voting-gov... https://www.rmpbs.org/blogs/news/colorado-noncitizens-deceased-voters-elections https://www.rmpbs.org/blogs/news/colorado-noncitizens-deceas...
    - adolph 2y ago
      > They would also be notified of deaths by the department of health and the social security administration. Is your claim that the social security administration sends a death notification to the deceased person's voter registrar? https://www.ssa.gov/dataexchange/stateagreements.html https://www.ssa.gov/dataexchange/stateagreements.html