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I created a page. If you want to look without signing up, here you go: https://lynx.boo/dg https://lynx.boo/dg

brm 2y ago
Brilliant that help you've offered is SEO spam. If that's not the Internet in a nutshell I don't know what it is. Good show.
- cabinguy 2y ago
  2 birds. Seriously though. Adding links to a website for sharing links is now spam? Ok.
  - wizzwizz4 2y ago
    It's the way you've done it: not suitable for people, but (nofollow aside) a good format for PageRank. It's kinda crass. If you put "Technology blog" and "Real estate portfolio" (for example) before those two spammy-looking links, it'd make it less viscerally offensive.
    - cabinguy 2y ago
      [edit] @wizzwizz4 Is it crass to edit your comment multiple times (with no declaration) to address a reply to your comment? Lol. Thats how the site works. It asks you for a URL and a title for the link. It’s my page, my account, so I linked to my site when trying it out. C’mon. I’m not going to argue about it anymore. Y’all can keep downvoting me if you want to.
      - wizzwizz4 2y ago
        That would indeed be crass; but I thought my edits came in before your reply. I apologise if they didn't. To actually address your comment: "my page" and "my account" are irrelevant. (You're not entitled to anything on someone else's server, except in special cases.) If you're linking those pages because you would like those they're relevant to to visit them, perception matters. If not… well, the perception of "spam" can lead people to treat your site as spammy. (Related: https://www.kjartan.co.uk/ https://www.kjartan.co.uk/.)
        cabinguy 2y ago
        I know I said I was done, but, let me get this straight. If I sign up for a website that was created for people to sign up to save links, and in doing so it requires you to submit a URL and a title for the link - and I use the page title as the title for the link: 1) I’m not entitled to do that and 2) It means my website is similar to a geocities page? Interesting.
        clan 2y ago
        Interesting, really! Yes. And I should not step into a bar fight! ;-) You are both right! I love that you posted the link. You made it easy for me to get the point of the site as I did not want to use my mail. You effectively lowered my barrier of entry and I thank you for that. Buuut. You did do the equivalent of just hitting "asdf" on the keyboard. I just put in "my own site". That was not clear to me up front either. I "felt" it "spammy" as well. While disclaimers are often overused this would however had been nice. "Here you go (just dumb links to my own site)". That would actually have encouraged me even more to visit you. Someone on the Internet was wrong. Please, no knives :-D
        aaron695 2y ago
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        TravisPeacock 2y ago
        I haven't wanted to wade into this because I want people to use and experience the site in the way they want but also I am kinda interested in the discussion about what kind of "rules" should exist. Honestly, I appreciate @Cabinguy for taking the initative to show people how it works and if the price of admission is some links to his stuff all the better. Furthermore, this is exactly what it is for. I guess in some ways it IS spammy but that's sort of the point is the market your own links. Generally this url then gets put in your instagram / tiktok / whatever bio that only allows one link. I like that @WizzWizz4 (the greatest of the WizzWizzes in my opinion) was defending the "sanctity" of my site but also probably more importantly to them this site. However, I just don't think it is needed here. As the website was used as exactly it was intended. :) Maybe no one was wrong.
  - rendaw 2y ago
    I saw the reply chain and I feel like there's some fundamental misunderstandings. I don't think GP means adding links is spam, they're saying the links themselves are spam (wt definition 2, content automatically generated for marketing purposes) because that's what they are. They're saying it's crass (wt definition 2: materialistic, or 1: lacking discrimination) because the goal of TFA is to move away from the machine-curated overly-commercialized impersonal/mechanical web and bring back a web focused on human touch. Creating a list with those commercial, machine-facing pages misses that goal. They're not saying it's bad - obviously the only way someone would view your link page is if someone posted the link page somewhere of interest to them, it's not like you're pushing it in their faces. In fact, I think they thought the juxtaposition interesting and metaphoric for current social forces. It's possible that you are an SEO geek and find new SEO marketing pages exciting, and have a circle of friends you share marketing pages with, maybe over coffee, in which case the one who misunderstood everything is me.
- 12thhandyman 2y ago
  At least it gives us all a way of seeing what the link pages look like after completion.
  - bigiain 2y ago
    There is a "here's ours" link in the first sentence on the homepage. Sadly the css hides all it's link styling. (Proper "brutalist webdesign" would have that as underlined blue text)
    - TravisPeacock 2y ago
      When he wrote that comment I hadn't added that yet. I do need to make sure the link is underlined though.
- bigiain 2y ago
  At least the links have nofollow on them (so only the ignorant/lazy/fraudulent SEO bottomfeeders will try to abuse this. Which I guess, to a first approximation, is "all of them"...)
robobro 2y ago
Boooo.
- MollyRealized 2y ago
  Seriously? That's a pretty low effort comment there.
tky 2y ago
Thanks! That’s all I wanted to see, and you provided a good example. “viscerally offensive” and “SEO spam” made my eyes roll like a slot machine wheel.
- jdthedisciple 2y ago
  Yea I genuinely don't get the criticism, what's supposed to be so off the marks about dg's site? Self advertisement? Isn't that what this is for?
nosrepa 2y ago
I was not expecting to see town names adjacent to mine!
TravisPeacock 2y ago
Snagging the good names! Thanks for the example :)

brm 2y ago

Brilliant that help you've offered is SEO spam. If that's not the Internet in a nutshell I don't know what it is. Good show.

cabinguy 2y ago
2 birds. Seriously though. Adding links to a website for sharing links is now spam? Ok.
- wizzwizz4 2y ago
  It's the way you've done it: not suitable for people, but (nofollow aside) a good format for PageRank. It's kinda crass. If you put "Technology blog" and "Real estate portfolio" (for example) before those two spammy-looking links, it'd make it less viscerally offensive.
  - cabinguy 2y ago
    [edit] @wizzwizz4 Is it crass to edit your comment multiple times (with no declaration) to address a reply to your comment? Lol. Thats how the site works. It asks you for a URL and a title for the link. It’s my page, my account, so I linked to my site when trying it out. C’mon. I’m not going to argue about it anymore. Y’all can keep downvoting me if you want to.
    - wizzwizz4 2y ago
      That would indeed be crass; but I thought my edits came in before your reply. I apologise if they didn't. To actually address your comment: "my page" and "my account" are irrelevant. (You're not entitled to anything on someone else's server, except in special cases.) If you're linking those pages because you would like those they're relevant to to visit them, perception matters. If not… well, the perception of "spam" can lead people to treat your site as spammy. (Related: https://www.kjartan.co.uk/ https://www.kjartan.co.uk/.)
      - cabinguy 2y ago
        I know I said I was done, but, let me get this straight. If I sign up for a website that was created for people to sign up to save links, and in doing so it requires you to submit a URL and a title for the link - and I use the page title as the title for the link: 1) I’m not entitled to do that and 2) It means my website is similar to a geocities page? Interesting.
        clan 2y ago
        Interesting, really! Yes. And I should not step into a bar fight! ;-) You are both right! I love that you posted the link. You made it easy for me to get the point of the site as I did not want to use my mail. You effectively lowered my barrier of entry and I thank you for that. Buuut. You did do the equivalent of just hitting "asdf" on the keyboard. I just put in "my own site". That was not clear to me up front either. I "felt" it "spammy" as well. While disclaimers are often overused this would however had been nice. "Here you go (just dumb links to my own site)". That would actually have encouraged me even more to visit you. Someone on the Internet was wrong. Please, no knives :-D
        aaron695 2y ago
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        TravisPeacock 2y ago
        I haven't wanted to wade into this because I want people to use and experience the site in the way they want but also I am kinda interested in the discussion about what kind of "rules" should exist. Honestly, I appreciate @Cabinguy for taking the initative to show people how it works and if the price of admission is some links to his stuff all the better. Furthermore, this is exactly what it is for. I guess in some ways it IS spammy but that's sort of the point is the market your own links. Generally this url then gets put in your instagram / tiktok / whatever bio that only allows one link. I like that @WizzWizz4 (the greatest of the WizzWizzes in my opinion) was defending the "sanctity" of my site but also probably more importantly to them this site. However, I just don't think it is needed here. As the website was used as exactly it was intended. :) Maybe no one was wrong.
- rendaw 2y ago
  I saw the reply chain and I feel like there's some fundamental misunderstandings. I don't think GP means adding links is spam, they're saying the links themselves are spam (wt definition 2, content automatically generated for marketing purposes) because that's what they are. They're saying it's crass (wt definition 2: materialistic, or 1: lacking discrimination) because the goal of TFA is to move away from the machine-curated overly-commercialized impersonal/mechanical web and bring back a web focused on human touch. Creating a list with those commercial, machine-facing pages misses that goal. They're not saying it's bad - obviously the only way someone would view your link page is if someone posted the link page somewhere of interest to them, it's not like you're pushing it in their faces. In fact, I think they thought the juxtaposition interesting and metaphoric for current social forces. It's possible that you are an SEO geek and find new SEO marketing pages exciting, and have a circle of friends you share marketing pages with, maybe over coffee, in which case the one who misunderstood everything is me.
12thhandyman 2y ago
At least it gives us all a way of seeing what the link pages look like after completion.
- bigiain 2y ago
  There is a "here's ours" link in the first sentence on the homepage. Sadly the css hides all it's link styling. (Proper "brutalist webdesign" would have that as underlined blue text)
  - TravisPeacock 2y ago
    When he wrote that comment I hadn't added that yet. I do need to make sure the link is underlined though.
bigiain 2y ago
At least the links have nofollow on them (so only the ignorant/lazy/fraudulent SEO bottomfeeders will try to abuse this. Which I guess, to a first approximation, is "all of them"...)

robobro 2y ago

Boooo.

MollyRealized 2y ago
Seriously? That's a pretty low effort comment there.

tky 2y ago

Thanks! That’s all I wanted to see, and you provided a good example. “viscerally offensive” and “SEO spam” made my eyes roll like a slot machine wheel.

jdthedisciple 2y ago
Yea I genuinely don't get the criticism, what's supposed to be so off the marks about dg's site? Self advertisement? Isn't that what this is for?

nosrepa 2y ago

I was not expecting to see town names adjacent to mine!

TravisPeacock 2y ago

Snagging the good names! Thanks for the example :)