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Excel leaves GSheets and all its alternatives in the dust in terms of performance and stability. I used to maintain MIS trackers in Google Sheets once, and whe

Excel leaves GSheets and all its alternatives in the dust in terms of performance and stability. I used to maintain MIS trackers in Google Sheets once, and when my company made the inevitable shift to MS Suite I saw an immediate improvement. FWIW I'm 25.

gregates 2y ago
Well, not all its alternatives. There's one spreadsheet out there that has better performance than Excel: https://rowzero.io/home https://rowzero.io/home
- eviks 2y ago
  How is its offline performance?
vlovich123 2y ago
I think you’re talking about it in a professional environment. That won’t matter if the people are growing up on GSheets today & demand that tool from their employer. Very old tale in SW.
- baq 2y ago
  Employers will tell them that their serious sheets only work in excel and it’s similar enough that they’ll figure it out and they’ll be right on both counts.
  - vlovich123 2y ago
    Depends on the profession. The company might shell out money for accounting to use excel. But PMs, engineers, TPMs, etc etc are likely to be told “hey we’re using google workplaces and aren’t going to buy you an excel license” unless you can make a very convincing case. That represents a shrinking pie for Excel even if specific professional use remains on Excel while everyone else moves on. Similar stuff happened with things like COBOL, IBM mainframes, etc. That’s why Microsoft competes with their 365 offering, but Google really put a dent in Microsoft’s near monopoly on OS+productivity tools that they built up and cemented in the 90s/early 00’s.
    - layer8 2y ago
      In my experience it depends more on the company you’re in than on the profession.
    - heraldgeezer 2y ago
      I worked for an MSP in Europe, so IT provider. No company used Google Workspace. All where Office 365.
      - theshackleford 2y ago
        Equally I’ve never worked for a company in my life that uses office or 365. At most in one org the CFO and his direct report had office licenses for excel. In working for a European company right now that is a pure google workspace shop. (Though I work remote and am not based in Europe myself.) I’ve got zero idea how to use excel because I’ve simply never worked for an org that has deployed Microsoft products and I’m nearing 40. Wild how different our experiences can be. I’d be totally open to trying out Microsoft products but it’s just never come up. In the same vein, I’ve never used windows in my career either (though I have administered windows server but that was only due to it being a requirement for some VMware stuff and it was treated like a leper.) I started my career with Linux and most roles since have deployed/provided MacBooks with OSX.)
- dartharva 2y ago
  GSheets are honestly a nightmare to use in case you have a nontrivial volume of data to work on. It won't do for most enterprise uses, especially in BI. I recall how many hoops I had to get into to convert one data dump into anything readable on it. And the update latency goes up to several minutes for the same job that Excel would take barely a second to finish. No non-stupid employer will have their team use GSheets for anything serious no matter what "youngsters" may demand. Also, on a side note I haven't seen a single instance where any business decision was made keeping into account what young employees were originally familiar with.
SoftTalker 2y ago
Certainly compared to early Google Sheets this is true, and it may be that first impression that a lot of older people still remember. Google Sheets today is totally adequate for most people's spreadsheet needs. I'd believe there are cases where Excel is still better, but they are at the extreme end of "power user" use cases.
- intended 2y ago
  For sure. Google sheets is good enough to be tolerable. If a work place forced sheets on me, I’d resort to excel in the background. (I would fit in the excel power user category).

gregates 2y ago

Well, not all its alternatives. There's one spreadsheet out there that has better performance than Excel: https://rowzero.io/home https://rowzero.io/home

eviks 2y ago
How is its offline performance?

vlovich123 2y ago

I think you’re talking about it in a professional environment. That won’t matter if the people are growing up on GSheets today & demand that tool from their employer. Very old tale in SW.

baq 2y ago
Employers will tell them that their serious sheets only work in excel and it’s similar enough that they’ll figure it out and they’ll be right on both counts.
- vlovich123 2y ago
  Depends on the profession. The company might shell out money for accounting to use excel. But PMs, engineers, TPMs, etc etc are likely to be told “hey we’re using google workplaces and aren’t going to buy you an excel license” unless you can make a very convincing case. That represents a shrinking pie for Excel even if specific professional use remains on Excel while everyone else moves on. Similar stuff happened with things like COBOL, IBM mainframes, etc. That’s why Microsoft competes with their 365 offering, but Google really put a dent in Microsoft’s near monopoly on OS+productivity tools that they built up and cemented in the 90s/early 00’s.
  - layer8 2y ago
    In my experience it depends more on the company you’re in than on the profession.
  - heraldgeezer 2y ago
    I worked for an MSP in Europe, so IT provider. No company used Google Workspace. All where Office 365.
    - theshackleford 2y ago
      Equally I’ve never worked for a company in my life that uses office or 365. At most in one org the CFO and his direct report had office licenses for excel. In working for a European company right now that is a pure google workspace shop. (Though I work remote and am not based in Europe myself.) I’ve got zero idea how to use excel because I’ve simply never worked for an org that has deployed Microsoft products and I’m nearing 40. Wild how different our experiences can be. I’d be totally open to trying out Microsoft products but it’s just never come up. In the same vein, I’ve never used windows in my career either (though I have administered windows server but that was only due to it being a requirement for some VMware stuff and it was treated like a leper.) I started my career with Linux and most roles since have deployed/provided MacBooks with OSX.)
dartharva 2y ago
GSheets are honestly a nightmare to use in case you have a nontrivial volume of data to work on. It won't do for most enterprise uses, especially in BI. I recall how many hoops I had to get into to convert one data dump into anything readable on it. And the update latency goes up to several minutes for the same job that Excel would take barely a second to finish. No non-stupid employer will have their team use GSheets for anything serious no matter what "youngsters" may demand. Also, on a side note I haven't seen a single instance where any business decision was made keeping into account what young employees were originally familiar with.

SoftTalker 2y ago

Certainly compared to early Google Sheets this is true, and it may be that first impression that a lot of older people still remember. Google Sheets today is totally adequate for most people's spreadsheet needs. I'd believe there are cases where Excel is still better, but they are at the extreme end of "power user" use cases.

intended 2y ago
For sure. Google sheets is good enough to be tolerable. If a work place forced sheets on me, I’d resort to excel in the background. (I would fit in the excel power user category).