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>But then, somebody else coming from a different country would read my message and would also say: Wow! I'm not so sure. All of those things you list in your f
by JonnieCache 14y ago
>But then, somebody else coming from a different country would read my message and would also say: Wow!
I'm not so sure. All of those things you list in your first paragraph happen in the UK all the time and nobody cares, and I imagine it is the same in most other countries.
As usual, there's probably some Scandinavian place where everyone behaves exemplarily.
- molmalo 14y agoThat's funny, I had a fellow co-worker here who came from Sweden. He said that even when there was practically no corruption at all where he lived, life was incredibly boring. He seemed to enjoy "having problems" here (yeah, that sounded strange to me too). Maybe those problems add adrenaline and emotion to our lives? Or maybe he was just crazy.
- kalmsy 14y agoLife is boring in Scandinavia? I don't recognize that at all, I'll even go as far as to say it's the exact opposite. Maybe he should try living in Copenhagen or Stockholm.
- nathan_long 14y agoI don't see how needing to pay bribes makes life exciting. If he wants some danger in his life, he could take up an extreme sport...
- idiot 14y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bothersome_Man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bothersome_Man
- afterburner 14y agoCorruption is demoralizing. Unless he views it as tabloid gossip, which is... unimpressive.
- davidw 14y agoThey happen everywhere. It's a matter of degree. Some people in corrupt places love to use the fact that no place is perfect as an excuse for why things should not change and why people shouldn't get angry.
- rwallace 14y agoIn Ireland, there isn't so much corruption. I won't say there's never any whatsoever, obviously, but there isn't anywhere near as much as people are describing here. I suppose it puts in perspective how lucky I should feel.
- JonnieCache 14y ago>In Ireland, there isn't so much corruption. Really? How hard are you looking?
- rwallace 14y agoIf there was anywhere near as much as is being discussed regarding some other countries, a cursory glance would suffice. Did you miss the bit where I said 'I won't say there's never any whatsoever, obviously'?
- patrickk 14y agoAhem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Haughey#Retirement.2C_tribunals_and_scandal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Haughey#Retirement.2C_t... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Burke_(Irish_politician) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Burke_(Irish_politician) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lowry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lowry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertie_Ahern#Controversy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertie_Ahern#Controversy At least 2 former Irish PMs (Taoiseach) were up to their eyes in it.
- alephnil 14y agoI think you should put things in perspective. Ireland is not the least corrupt country in the world, but definitely on the right end of the list. Only Scandinavia, Germany, Canada, Australia and New Zealand is less corrupt. The rest of western Europe as well as the US, Chile, Uruguay and surprisingly Botswana is at about the same level, while every other country is more corrupt. No country is totally free of corruption. It would be no problem to find cases in Swedish media as well. That you find corruption cases in the media is a good sign, because it indicates society does not accept it. Corruption is not in any way crippling Irish economy like it does many other places. (Source: http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/results/ http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/results/ )