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> Apple has now made four generations of chips and each one were class leading upon release. Buying up most of TSMC's latest node capacity certainly helps. Zen
by sangnoir 2y ago
> Apple has now made four generations of chips and each one were class leading upon release.
Buying up most of TSMC's latest node capacity certainly helps. Zen chips on the same node turn out to be very competitive, butAMD don't get first dibs.
- rowanG077 2y agoI disagree with the wording "AMD don't get first dibs". It's more like "AMD won't pay for first dibs"
- whynotminot 2y agoI don’t think a lot of people fully understand how closely Apple works with TSMC on this, too. Both in funding them, holding them accountable, and providing the capital needed for the big foundry bets. It’s kind of one of those IYKYK things, but Apple is a big reason TSMC actually is the market leader.
- stouset 2y agoIt’s more like Apple fronts the cash for TSMC’s latest node. But regardless, in what way does that detract from their chips being class-leading at release?
- fragmede 2y agoBecause the others can't use that node, there are no others in that same class. If there was a race, but one person is on foot, and the other is in a car, it's not surprising if the person in the car finishes first.
- whynotminot 2y agoEventually Apple moves off a node and the others move on. People pretend like this isn’t a thing that’s already happened, and that there aren’t fair comparisons. But there are. And even when you compare like for like Apple Silicon tends to win. Line up the node, check the wattages, compare the parts. I trust you can handle the assignment.
- cbzbc 2y agoI have some sympathy with this view because it's in no way mass market. Nevertheless, product delivery is a combination of multiple things of which the basic tech is just one component.