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China - under Xi specifically - doesn't have rule of law, acts as an agent of chaos on the world stage, doesn't care about international order, bullies its neig

by uses 2y ago

China - under Xi specifically - doesn't have rule of law, acts as an agent of chaos on the world stage, doesn't care about international order, bullies its neighbors, and critically, has become a 1-man dictatorship in the past ~10 years. Under Xi, it's an aspiring evil empire that considers all humans of Han ancestry to belong to it, and genuinely doesn't care about the rest. Pre-Xi, China was on a positive trajectory. Post-Xi, hopefully that'll return.

ridiculous_leke 2y ago
Unlike several other authoritarian regimes, this is very much constitutional in China. Every institution pretty much reports to the CCP.
- yazzku 2y ago
  Really? That's fantastic. In the US, three-letter government agencies work outside the scrutiny of the law.
  - fakedang 2y ago
    In China, "there are no three-letter government agencies".
juunpp 2y ago
Your first sentence is exactly what the US has done since the Cold War through recent history. Why is it different when China does it, which it also hasn't to the scale that the US has?
- rustcleaner 2y ago
  It's not different. Peace is always a temporary illusion, a cloaking of the war, and one shouldn't expect any consistency in these cases (akin to the peacock's tail-feathers, too much consistency costs).
- fyrn_ 2y ago
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  - lmz 2y ago
    You could say something similar about the Mongols (Pax Mongolica). Of course, they weren't very nice to other states when establishing that order...
surfpel 2y ago
Yikes. Propaganda runs DEEP in the west. Everything you said describes the US and other western nations better than any other civilization in history. The US backs genocide after genocide, consistently breaks the international “laws” it pushed for. From the start of the empire, that’s been the explicit policy of the American empire. Trail of tears anyone? Hiroshima? Agent Orange? East Timor? The banana republics? It’s a really long list… Students really need to be taught their actual history. It’s really quite horrific. This comment displays not even a shred of understanding regarding China or it’s history. How dare China have territorial sovereignty. How dare they have security in their own region. How dare they build infrastructure in the global south, when everyone knows they should be pillaging those regions instead! Unthinkable! That all belongs to the west! That comment represents an insanity in the west that may just be the downfall of organized human life.
- wumeow 2y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
  - surfpel 2y ago
    Lol yes exactly like this. Tides have turned eh? The American elite are doing a very good job of distracting the public from problems at home. They get people riled up about Taiwan or Ukraine, meanwhile the education system, the housing supply, job market, healthcare system, etc... are all in shambles. Americans don't even question it anymore! It's now fair that housing should be >=40% of your wage. It's fair that companies that are propped up by the American people can screw over those same people. But when you see how modern and lively China is and how they live, compared to the crumbling, old United States... oh boy. Strange how they can afford it but we, the supposed 'richest country in the world', can't.
csomar 2y ago
Dude you need to chill. Xi is just a man in China. You need to take a trip there to get a different perspective and make sure to talk/interact with the local people.
DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
China doesn't really have stable rule of law, but "agent of chaos on the world stage"? It's the most stable and predictable major power, by far. China hasn't fought a war in 40 years. It's been too busy focusing on its own internal economic development. In terms of the international order, China is much more committed to institutions like the UN and WTO than the US is, because China wants a stable international framework in which to continue its own internal development.
FirmwareBurner 2y ago
>doesn't have rule of law, acts as an agent of chaos on the world stage, doesn't care about international order, bullies its neighbors This also describes the actions of the US in many circumstances in its history.

by uses 2y ago

ridiculous_leke 2y ago

Unlike several other authoritarian regimes, this is very much constitutional in China. Every institution pretty much reports to the CCP.

yazzku 2y ago
Really? That's fantastic. In the US, three-letter government agencies work outside the scrutiny of the law.
- fakedang 2y ago
  In China, "there are no three-letter government agencies".

juunpp 2y ago

Your first sentence is exactly what the US has done since the Cold War through recent history. Why is it different when China does it, which it also hasn't to the scale that the US has?

rustcleaner 2y ago
It's not different. Peace is always a temporary illusion, a cloaking of the war, and one shouldn't expect any consistency in these cases (akin to the peacock's tail-feathers, too much consistency costs).
fyrn_ 2y ago
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- lmz 2y ago
  You could say something similar about the Mongols (Pax Mongolica). Of course, they weren't very nice to other states when establishing that order...

surfpel 2y ago

Yikes. Propaganda runs DEEP in the west. Everything you said describes the US and other western nations better than any other civilization in history. The US backs genocide after genocide, consistently breaks the international “laws” it pushed for. From the start of the empire, that’s been the explicit policy of the American empire. Trail of tears anyone? Hiroshima? Agent Orange? East Timor? The banana republics? It’s a really long list… Students really need to be taught their actual history. It’s really quite horrific. This comment displays not even a shred of understanding regarding China or it’s history. How dare China have territorial sovereignty. How dare they have security in their own region. How dare they build infrastructure in the global south, when everyone knows they should be pillaging those regions instead! Unthinkable! That all belongs to the west! That comment represents an insanity in the west that may just be the downfall of organized human life.

wumeow 2y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
- surfpel 2y ago
  Lol yes exactly like this. Tides have turned eh? The American elite are doing a very good job of distracting the public from problems at home. They get people riled up about Taiwan or Ukraine, meanwhile the education system, the housing supply, job market, healthcare system, etc... are all in shambles. Americans don't even question it anymore! It's now fair that housing should be >=40% of your wage. It's fair that companies that are propped up by the American people can screw over those same people. But when you see how modern and lively China is and how they live, compared to the crumbling, old United States... oh boy. Strange how they can afford it but we, the supposed 'richest country in the world', can't.

csomar 2y ago

Dude you need to chill. Xi is just a man in China. You need to take a trip there to get a different perspective and make sure to talk/interact with the local people.

DiogenesKynikos 2y ago

China doesn't really have stable rule of law, but "agent of chaos on the world stage"? It's the most stable and predictable major power, by far. China hasn't fought a war in 40 years. It's been too busy focusing on its own internal economic development. In terms of the international order, China is much more committed to institutions like the UN and WTO than the US is, because China wants a stable international framework in which to continue its own internal development.

FirmwareBurner 2y ago

>doesn't have rule of law, acts as an agent of chaos on the world stage, doesn't care about international order, bullies its neighbors This also describes the actions of the US in many circumstances in its history.