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Not sure I mentioned the US, and I certainly didn't give an opinion on US support for Israel, a subject which has in many people's view become impossible to dis
by contingencies 2y ago
Not sure I mentioned the US, and I certainly didn't give an opinion on US support for Israel, a subject which has in many people's view become impossible to discuss openly. I believe you refer to the Trump election outcome with regards to claims of cessation of support for foreign conflicts. I do not follow US politics to any depth but my uninformed impression was that he perhaps wants to dethrone or progressively de-fund the defense industry who have historically backed various political or business rivals. Probably this is a part truth.
But yes, the US is certainly in a difficult position with its socioeconomic trajectory, and the current election is a powder keg.
A somewhat popular meme in the expat community in China has long been that the US and China are just converging on the same future from different paths. Those who have lived for extended periods in both places can see the truths behind this suggestion.
It has been said that "Our true nationality is mankind", but I think it better to state "Our true nationality is Eukaryote". We should care more about the environment and other species' outcomes, not obsess over monkey-squabbles.
- cjbgkagh 2y agoYou're talking about nation support for Zionist Israel and that's pretty much just the US. The US is the worlds current hegemon and it's current policy of exporting liberal democracy is part of the globalist effort to instill and maintain a rules based world order. I consider that to be globalism and the opposite of nationalism. Trump is merely wearing the cloak of nationalism in order to get elected which I guess is why it gets confusing - Zionism is a wedge issue in the culture war and an ability for the right wing to take part in grievance politics. Evangelicals have also been thoroughly brainwashed to support Zionist Israel but those are dying out and the new ones are smaller in number and have a net negative view of Israel. Support for Israel was already on a demographic timer which has only just gotten much shorter since Oct 7th. We're going to see some weird things in the near future.
- contingencies 2y agoIn a spirit of share the wealth if you still actually believe the export part, you might benefit from reading more Chomsky and maybe Confessions of an Economic Hitman. Religious fervor is associated with low standards of education, and organized religion with politics. One good takedown is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZRcYaAYWg4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZRcYaAYWg4
- cjbgkagh 2y agoThanks for the suggestion but I've already read both of them. You and I are on opposite ends of the spectrum, you have an affinity with eukaryotes and I barely share an affinity with most of humanity. I'm interested in knowing things for curiosity sake and my general support for humanity, specifically the unthriving middle class, is for my own comfort and desire to live in a nice society. I see religion is just another form of politics and politics is inherent to people, to hate religion is to hate people. I don't particularly like religion but I don't particularly like people either. Given the inherent constraints of people I'm not sure how I would design a nice society without religion. It appears to me that those who try to stamp out religions often end up creating new ones complete with articles of fait, heresy, and excommunications.
- itsthecourier 2y agoBro, you don't like people, we must create a religion. Hear your calling.
- rustcleaner 2y ago>Trump is merely wearing the cloak of nationalism in order to get elected which I guess is why it gets confusing - Zionism is a wedge issue in the culture war and an ability for the right wing to take part in grievance politics. I will not be hoodwinked again! -t. Bamboozled 2016 Trump Voter