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>Russia is so corrupt, only a full scale revolution will have a chance at fixing the country. So you're saying there's a violent class struggle between the pop

>Russia is so corrupt, only a full scale revolution will have a chance at fixing the country. So you're saying there's a violent class struggle between the populist system and the oppressed business class - and that the only way the downtrodden business owners can rise up and free themselves from their chains is through full scale revolution? This sounds like it's straight out of Monty Python - but hey, good luck with that.

unimpressive 14y ago
> This sounds like it's straight out of Monty Python - but hey, good luck with that. While I'm not supporting his assertion that this is the case, if such a thing were to happen anywhere, well...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_russia
rdl 14y ago
The corruption, like corruption in other countries (including the US), hurts the poor and wage-earning directly and indirectly as well. It's not like it's the populace vs. business owners, it's the powerful and capricious vs. everyone (including other powerful people), using the state and security apparatus as a tool. Aside from a few people who made a lot of money a couple decades ago from rapid deregulation, I don't think business owners in Russia are worried about taxes, reasonable regulation, etc. hurting their businesses -- they're worried about totally random extortion. Very few businesses would rather operate in Equatorial Guinea or Somalia instead of (heavily regulated country of choice: depending on context, could be Germany, the US, Denmark, ...).
chrischen 14y ago
He didn't say there is a class struggle. He said a full scale revolution may be the only way the country can be fixed. Conditions will deteriorate until the point where there will be a class struggle though.
rorrr 14y ago
Stealing businesses is a much smarter idea than stealing money. Russian government thugs have figured it out. I do see why it may seem funny and Monty-Python-like, but it's extremely sad. It's a huge country ruled by thugs and talking heads, and they want more and more for themselves, while talking about helping the population.

unimpressive 14y ago

> This sounds like it's straight out of Monty Python - but hey, good luck with that. While I'm not supporting his assertion that this is the case, if such a thing were to happen anywhere, well...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_russia

rdl 14y ago

The corruption, like corruption in other countries (including the US), hurts the poor and wage-earning directly and indirectly as well. It's not like it's the populace vs. business owners, it's the powerful and capricious vs. everyone (including other powerful people), using the state and security apparatus as a tool. Aside from a few people who made a lot of money a couple decades ago from rapid deregulation, I don't think business owners in Russia are worried about taxes, reasonable regulation, etc. hurting their businesses -- they're worried about totally random extortion. Very few businesses would rather operate in Equatorial Guinea or Somalia instead of (heavily regulated country of choice: depending on context, could be Germany, the US, Denmark, ...).

chrischen 14y ago

He didn't say there is a class struggle. He said a full scale revolution may be the only way the country can be fixed. Conditions will deteriorate until the point where there will be a class struggle though.

rorrr 14y ago

Stealing businesses is a much smarter idea than stealing money. Russian government thugs have figured it out. I do see why it may seem funny and Monty-Python-like, but it's extremely sad. It's a huge country ruled by thugs and talking heads, and they want more and more for themselves, while talking about helping the population.