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Bitters take away the sweet tooth, such as grapefruit (especially organic), bitter tea or natural bitter drops. Eat a grapefruit after dinner and you cravings s

Bitters take away the sweet tooth, such as grapefruit (especially organic), bitter tea or natural bitter drops. Eat a grapefruit after dinner and you cravings should be severely limited.

thenobsta 2y ago
I'm going to try this! Do you have a natural bitter drop that you like? Seems like there are a bunch of different formulations out there.
- l5870uoo9y 2y ago
  I haven't tried any bitter drops as I only eat grapefruits. Got the advice from "leading" nutritionist in Germany – so it should be sound advice.
  - haccount 2y ago
    I spent a brief moment working close to nutritionists and completely lost faith in their ability to do anything correctly beyond counting calories.
    - l5870uoo9y 2y ago
      I have the same reservations, and not just about dietitians but also other scientific disciplines. Many dietitians are first and foremost businessmen selling various supplements. Whether the supplement is necessary, effective or even harmful is less important. The dietitians I trust document their dietary advice week after week by curing various ailments and diseases through scientific treatments (and they never recommend specific products): https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/die-ernaehrungsdocs/rueckschau/index.html https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/die-ernaehrungsdocs/r...
whatshisface 2y ago
Grapefruits tasted bitter when I was a kid... Now they're like oranges unless they're very unripe. I think they've been improving the cultivars.
- rootusrootus 2y ago
  I would not be at all surprised. There are some varieties of apple that can make you fat if you overeat them. Figures they'd try to do the same to other fruits. Another one is brussels sprouts. They used to be a lot more bitter, but that has been largely bred out. It has made them way more popular, but part of me wishes it had not changed.
  - l5870uoo9y 2y ago
    Believe there was a zoo that started feeding monkeys with "modern" bananas and had to revert back to the old traditional banana, because the monkeys were getting diabetes.
    - rootusrootus 2y ago
      That's interesting. I thought gros michel bananas are actually sweeter than cavendish, not the other way around? They're otherwise closely related, IIRC. I wonder what they will come up with after cavendish fails?
  - PittleyDunkin 2y ago
    > There are some varieties of apple that can make you fat if you overeat them. Is there any food that won't make you fat if you overeat them? Generally "overeating" is what makes you fat.
    - rootusrootus 2y ago
      Sure, that is technically correct, which as they say is the best kind of correct. But as a practical matter, getting enough calories from granny smith apples to get fat is not feasible. On the other hand, you might have a shot if you developed a hankering for honeycrisps. More sugar, less fiber, way less protein.
adastra22 2y ago
Avoid grapefruit if you take ANY medication! It can seriously fuck you up.
- l5870uoo9y 2y ago
  Grapefruit can interfere with some medications but not all. If you fear it might interfere, I would suggest asking your doctor.
  - adastra22 2y ago
    Obviously ask your doctor, but it would be more accurate to say that it interferes with most medication, with just a few that it does not. Grapefruit knocks out key metabolizing agents in the gut that is responsible for breaking down a lot of organic molecules. For this reason, the vast majority of medications are given out in relatively large dosages in order to survive the intestines and get to the bloodstream. But if you eat grapefruit, you get that full dosage in your blood. For some medication that doesn’t matter. Usually for prescription meds that is the exception. For most prescription meds, getting 5X the blood dose can range from debilitating to lethal. If you take a daily pill, imagine what might happen if you swallowed a week’s worth at once. If that gives you pause, don’t mix with grapefruit.
pj_mukh 2y ago
I wonder if Black coffee would also work here?

Bitters take away the sweet tooth, such as grapefruit (especially organic), bitter tea or natural bitter drops. Eat a grapefruit after dinner and you cravings should be severely limited.

thenobsta 2y ago

I'm going to try this! Do you have a natural bitter drop that you like? Seems like there are a bunch of different formulations out there.

l5870uoo9y 2y ago
I haven't tried any bitter drops as I only eat grapefruits. Got the advice from "leading" nutritionist in Germany – so it should be sound advice.
- haccount 2y ago
  I spent a brief moment working close to nutritionists and completely lost faith in their ability to do anything correctly beyond counting calories.
  - l5870uoo9y 2y ago
    I have the same reservations, and not just about dietitians but also other scientific disciplines. Many dietitians are first and foremost businessmen selling various supplements. Whether the supplement is necessary, effective or even harmful is less important. The dietitians I trust document their dietary advice week after week by curing various ailments and diseases through scientific treatments (and they never recommend specific products): https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/die-ernaehrungsdocs/rueckschau/index.html https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/die-ernaehrungsdocs/r...

whatshisface 2y ago

Grapefruits tasted bitter when I was a kid... Now they're like oranges unless they're very unripe. I think they've been improving the cultivars.

rootusrootus 2y ago
I would not be at all surprised. There are some varieties of apple that can make you fat if you overeat them. Figures they'd try to do the same to other fruits. Another one is brussels sprouts. They used to be a lot more bitter, but that has been largely bred out. It has made them way more popular, but part of me wishes it had not changed.
- l5870uoo9y 2y ago
  Believe there was a zoo that started feeding monkeys with "modern" bananas and had to revert back to the old traditional banana, because the monkeys were getting diabetes.
  - rootusrootus 2y ago
    That's interesting. I thought gros michel bananas are actually sweeter than cavendish, not the other way around? They're otherwise closely related, IIRC. I wonder what they will come up with after cavendish fails?
- PittleyDunkin 2y ago
  > There are some varieties of apple that can make you fat if you overeat them. Is there any food that won't make you fat if you overeat them? Generally "overeating" is what makes you fat.
  - rootusrootus 2y ago
    Sure, that is technically correct, which as they say is the best kind of correct. But as a practical matter, getting enough calories from granny smith apples to get fat is not feasible. On the other hand, you might have a shot if you developed a hankering for honeycrisps. More sugar, less fiber, way less protein.

adastra22 2y ago

Avoid grapefruit if you take ANY medication! It can seriously fuck you up.

l5870uoo9y 2y ago
Grapefruit can interfere with some medications but not all. If you fear it might interfere, I would suggest asking your doctor.
- adastra22 2y ago
  Obviously ask your doctor, but it would be more accurate to say that it interferes with most medication, with just a few that it does not. Grapefruit knocks out key metabolizing agents in the gut that is responsible for breaking down a lot of organic molecules. For this reason, the vast majority of medications are given out in relatively large dosages in order to survive the intestines and get to the bloodstream. But if you eat grapefruit, you get that full dosage in your blood. For some medication that doesn’t matter. Usually for prescription meds that is the exception. For most prescription meds, getting 5X the blood dose can range from debilitating to lethal. If you take a daily pill, imagine what might happen if you swallowed a week’s worth at once. If that gives you pause, don’t mix with grapefruit.

pj_mukh 2y ago

I wonder if Black coffee would also work here?