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Interestingly Moscow Mayor Sobyanin signed a decree banning apartments under 28 sqm, aiming to limit small-sized housing construction. “The area of apartments

Interestingly Moscow Mayor Sobyanin signed a decree banning apartments under 28 sqm, aiming to limit small-sized housing construction. “The area of apartments (excluding the areas of balconies, loggias, terraces, cold storage rooms and apartment vestibules) should be at least 28 square meters for one-room apartments, including apartments in which the living room is not separated from the kitchen by intra-apartment partitions, and at least 44 square meters for two-room apartments,” provides the document published on the ConsultantPlus portal. The decree came into force on August 1. The fact that Moscow decided to abandon the construction of studios and apartments with an area of less than 28 square meters became known in May, when Moskomexpertiza sent out an information letter indicating that it would issue negative opinions on construction projects involving the construction of apartments with an area of less than 28 square meters I wonder why they did this. I thought things were cheap over there and they had a huge amount of land?

juujian 2y ago
To keep out undesirables?
fsckboy 2y ago
moscow, like all major cities in the world, does not have a huge amount of available land.
- greenavocado 2y ago
  Disagree with that; the administrative city district outside the major ring road extends to the south west and has a huge amount of undeveloped land. Maybe its because tiny apartments are often marketed as “affordable,” but the phenomenon can contribute to gentrification? Apparently when developers prioritize small units to maximize profit per square meter, housing becomes less accessible to larger families or lower-income residents, changing the socio-economic profile of neighborhoods. Larger apartments could potentially promote more diverse occupancy types, attracting families and potentially keeping communities more balanced. Dunno.
johnnyanmac 2y ago
What do you do with 28sqm? In my house that's not much more than a single room and then trying to fit in a tiny bathroom.
- 9dev 2y ago
  While studying, I lived in a 12sqm room in a shared flat. You can do a lot with 28sqm if you have to.
  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    If you need to, sure. the structure makes sense for some cheap motel where rooms are probably not much more than 10sqm (and the bathroom is communal). But I can't imagine comfortably raising a family in such a situation.
  - sourcepluck 2y ago
    9m2, for 9 months, two people, would have stayed too but something came up. We'd a bunk bed with no bottom bunk where I'd my keyboard set up for giving piano classes. We'd plastic plates and cups which we would hurl down into the sink from the top bunk when we were done. Absolutely loved that place, it was like Alice in Wonderland.
- greenavocado 2y ago
  Can you imagine that people were building smaller apartments :rofl:
  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    I've seen it. I've slept in it. I just wouldn't call them comfortable. It works when you're young and single, but I can't imagine building "homes" and claiming 28sqm is anymore than a barrak to survive in, not a place to raise a family. If you're not building barraks with this structure (which these capsule hotels really are) a minimum space requirement makes sense if you want to sell people "homes".
- bergie 2y ago
sourcepluck 2y ago
If they can keep the prices of apartments cheap or at least reasonable, then it could make sense. I'd have to know more about the law on that to really judge.

juujian 2y ago

To keep out undesirables?

fsckboy 2y ago

moscow, like all major cities in the world, does not have a huge amount of available land.

greenavocado 2y ago
Disagree with that; the administrative city district outside the major ring road extends to the south west and has a huge amount of undeveloped land. Maybe its because tiny apartments are often marketed as “affordable,” but the phenomenon can contribute to gentrification? Apparently when developers prioritize small units to maximize profit per square meter, housing becomes less accessible to larger families or lower-income residents, changing the socio-economic profile of neighborhoods. Larger apartments could potentially promote more diverse occupancy types, attracting families and potentially keeping communities more balanced. Dunno.

johnnyanmac 2y ago

What do you do with 28sqm? In my house that's not much more than a single room and then trying to fit in a tiny bathroom.

9dev 2y ago
While studying, I lived in a 12sqm room in a shared flat. You can do a lot with 28sqm if you have to.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  If you need to, sure. the structure makes sense for some cheap motel where rooms are probably not much more than 10sqm (and the bathroom is communal). But I can't imagine comfortably raising a family in such a situation.
- sourcepluck 2y ago
  9m2, for 9 months, two people, would have stayed too but something came up. We'd a bunk bed with no bottom bunk where I'd my keyboard set up for giving piano classes. We'd plastic plates and cups which we would hurl down into the sink from the top bunk when we were done. Absolutely loved that place, it was like Alice in Wonderland.
greenavocado 2y ago
Can you imagine that people were building smaller apartments :rofl:
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  I've seen it. I've slept in it. I just wouldn't call them comfortable. It works when you're young and single, but I can't imagine building "homes" and claiming 28sqm is anymore than a barrak to survive in, not a place to raise a family. If you're not building barraks with this structure (which these capsule hotels really are) a minimum space requirement makes sense if you want to sell people "homes".
bergie 2y ago

sourcepluck 2y ago

If they can keep the prices of apartments cheap or at least reasonable, then it could make sense. I'd have to know more about the law on that to really judge.