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The greatest news for customers is that Adobe aren't the ones buying it RIP Macromedia Fireworks
by wlesieutre 2y ago
The greatest news for customers is that Adobe aren't the ones buying it
RIP Macromedia Fireworks
- adastra22 2y agoIdk, Apple is just as likely to kill it.
- thenberlin 2y agoThough way less likely to turn it into a cursed subscription zombie.
- ghaff 2y agoLeaving aside pricing specifics, the main issue with subscriptions is for products that you just fire up once in a great while. So long as the pricing is reasonable, I have no particular issue with subscriptions for products I use on a routine basis--especially if they're products that more or less require ongoing updates to remain useful.
- samatman 2y agoFor me personally, Pixelmator is absolutely a product I just fire up once in a great while. I bought it anyway because when I need it, I need it. But there's no way I would let a program like that deflate my bank account like a pricked balloon.
- ghaff 2y agoI don't think you're disagreeing with me. I do subscribe to Photoshop mostly because Lightroom makes sense as a subscription. Otherwise I'd probably make do with GIMP or maybe something like Pixelmator. (I used Photoshop Elements for a long time.)
- samatman 2y agoIt doesn't appear that I am. All I meant to add is that if Apple turns Pixelmator into a "cursed subscription zombie" (and I very much doubt this will happen) then I will not be getting that subscription. I expect most people wouldn't either.
- knicholes 2y agoInteresting! Do you think a credits-based pricing would be more fair? Only pay for it when you use it? Maybe pay per click? Maybe like how cloud providers charge based on how long you have it open?
- ghaff 2y agoMetered pricing is basically cloud pricing. Probably reasonable for some uses but uncommon for applications at least with major providers.
- prmoustache 2y agoHasn't Apple gone the subscription route for ipad apps (I am fairly sure I read somewhere that Logic for iPad is subscription based)?
- newsclues 2y agoDoubtful. It might get worked into iPhoto or a new version of Aperture as part of their pro apps.
- adastra22 2y agoHow is that different from what I said?
- pridkett 2y agoThat would be a nice outcome. I’ve been missing a replacement for Aperture for years. I’m not a professional photographer, but I’ve got more than 30 years of photos inside of Apple Photos. Some old school scans or Photo CDs, some RAW from underwater (Photos does a poor job here), and a ton of iPhone photos. Bringing a more premium experience to Photos would be a great complement to how you can already shell out to Pixelmator while editing photos.
- giobox 2y agoThe big thing Aperture nailed though was photo-management workflows - it was never that great as an image editor. I don't see anything in Pixelmator that moves the needle in an Aperture/Lightroom-type direction by integrating photo management, which was the innovation Aperture and Lightroom brought back at their roughly similar original launch dates. Pixelmator is much more a photoshop alternative IMO. I'd put money on this acquisition being used to improve the image editing experience in photos.app on iOS/macOS, just like Dark Sky was acquired and then used to improve weather.app, rather than any return of Aperture.
- masto 2y agoMuch, much more likely. The only acquisition I can think of that Apple has allowed to continue to exist is Shazam.
- wlesieutre 2y agoEmagic's Logic is the pro software example. But they've killed others, like Chalice and RAYZ (purchased from Silicon Grail) were killed before Apple released Motion, and Nothing Real was purchased for Shake which was killed 6 years later.
- chrismsimpson 2y agoThe only acquisition? Emagic, the original maker of Logic was acquired some 20 years ago and now Logic is one of if not the flagship software product sold by Apple
- masto 2y agoMy ability to think of examples obviously isn't that great. I still don't see where it fits into the lineup. If there's still a PixelMator Pro in 6 months, I'll be surprised, but it won't be the first time I'm completely wrong about something.
- lxe 2y agoAnyone remember Siri Assistant...?
- criddell 2y agoAnd Siri and Shortcuts.
- wlesieutre 2y agoI was worried Workflow was totally screwed as a product after Apple bought it, but they've done a really great job at turning it into Shortcuts and integrating it across all their platforms. Being able to put Shortcuts into Control Center in iOS 18 is a handy option, if anyone missed that you can do that now.
- rad_gruchalski 2y agoWhy would they kill it? Is Apple in the graphic design business today? If I was to place a bet: they are looking for the next graphics killer app for ipad and macos. They purchased Pixelmator because Pixelmator owns the intellectual property for all their code and Apple found it more convenient to buy complete IP rather than reinventing the wheel.
- highwaylights 2y agoMan do I ever miss Fireworks. And Dark Sky for that matter. Fireworks really was it though.
- EGreg 2y agoI miss Photoshop 5. That's why I was so happy to discover and use photopea.com now :)
- dimitrios1 2y agoStill running CS2 from an old ripped disc over here. Does 95% of what I need.
- EGreg 2y agoMy hat's off to you sir! I wish I could do it, but at some point MacOS moved on and My CS5 would crap out on me. Glad I found a clone online
- wlesieutre 2y agoCS5 predated Retina display support too
- OnionBlender 2y agoGraphite looks like a promising alternative to Fireworks for combining vector and raster graphics. I'm looking forward to the desktop version.
- GustaBOT 2y agoI spent a lot of time in the early 2000 with Macromedia apps.. i miss Director
- spectre3d 2y agoMe too, I produced a lot of work with it. Lingo was a gas.