5 ms·

> Adobe must be trembling. Adobe is probably popping open a champagne for every cross-platform Creative Cloud competitor that gets mothballed with Apple's capi

> Adobe must be trembling. Adobe is probably popping open a champagne for every cross-platform Creative Cloud competitor that gets mothballed with Apple's capital. If Microsoft acquired Affinity next, the Adobe offices would look like a disco ball for a week.

cyberpunk 2y ago
I’ve never seen a graphics person using a windows machine in all my years in tech… Maybe I’m in some sort of bubble.
- talldayo 2y ago
  I guess it depends where you work. In CAD and 3D animation work, Windows machines outnumber the Macs I see 10:1. In smaller shops this ratio probably flips around but Adobe (and others) have a large and captive contingent of Windows users to profit off.
  - pier25 2y ago
    Adobe doesn't offer CAD and 3D animation products.
    - talldayo 2y ago
      [(and others)]
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- racl101 2y ago
  I have but it was corporate, fintech setting where Windows stations rule the place. She was a really good graphics designer too. Surprised me as well.
- dylan604 2y ago
  I've been forced to use Windows in the creative graphics world. Back long ago in the dark ages, I did layout/graphics for a 'zine that was all done on Windows NT with Adobe software delivered to press on a Syquest disk. More recently (2017ish), I was on Windows 7 for another stint at graphics. Maybe I've just had the misfortune that others have been able to avoid??
- ihateolives 2y ago
  Yes you are. You probably live in the US, Canada or the UK.
- hifromwork 2y ago
  We all live in our own bubbles. I never saw a tech person using MacOS, it's always Windows or Linux - I assume that's not your experience either (and I only know a few people using MacOS privately). That probably mostly depends on the country one resides in.
  - 59nadir 2y ago
    Well, the view laid out here also corresponds to actual statistical reality: About 29% of developers reported using Macs (of any kind) as of a few years ago, it's not even close to "most", as some HN visitors would have you believe. The bubble is very real. Statistically speaking there was no "most developers use this", but the closest OS offering was Windows at 45%. Given Apple's poor performance on the OS side the past few years I'm not sure the hardware has managed to keep users on their side anyway; they even lost DHH very publicly not that long ago... So the numbers might be even worse now. Edit: In the latest StackOverflow survey 31.8% of developers report using MacOS (for personal and professional use), 57.9%/47.6% for Windows (personal/professional use). So both MacOS and Windows are eating into Linux's share at the moment, with Windows offering them to instead run Linux inside of Windows.
- saaaaaam 2y ago
  "graphics people" aren't the core people using Adobe's products though. As evidenced by the terrible designs people keep cranking out using photoshop. And by the huge market for terrible-design-by-numbers Canva.com
- fortran77 2y ago
  Really? I worked in Hollywood for many years and all the color grading and photo editing was done on PCs with Sony professional color grading monitors, which weren't supported right on Macs.
pier25 2y ago
Pixelmator could never compete with Adobe. Their expertise is on Mac and until now they didn't have the resources to make a big product like Photoshop or Illustrator (at some point they shared the idea of making a vector graphics product but it was abandoned). Another point is macOS has a significant market share in the creative industries. Personally I know zero designers/illustrators using Windows. My hunch is Mac users represent probably 50% or more of Adobe users.
fny 2y ago
What if it becomes another iMovie or Garageband?
themagician 2y ago
Affinity was acquired by Canva.
- nacs 2y ago
  Yep, I wish Apple had acquired them instead. Canva is.. not a good company.
  - fratlas 2y ago
    Canva left the buy once affinity model untouched, and are an ethical company.
  - auscompgeek 2y ago
    Curious why you think Canva isn't a good company?
wkat4242 2y ago
I don't think Apple bought this to mothball it. That only makes sense if it competes with your own products. Which this doesn't.
- echoangle 2y ago
  I think the point was that cross-platform is mothballed now, there probably won't be a windows version of pixelmator now.
  - groby_b 2y ago
    There never was going to be one. The pixelmator team is deeply steeped in the Apple world, and I seriously doubt they'd ever consider Windows.
latexr 2y ago
> If Microsoft acquired Affinity next They have already been acquired (by Canva) earlier this year. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39824191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39824191

cyberpunk 2y ago

I’ve never seen a graphics person using a windows machine in all my years in tech… Maybe I’m in some sort of bubble.

talldayo 2y ago
I guess it depends where you work. In CAD and 3D animation work, Windows machines outnumber the Macs I see 10:1. In smaller shops this ratio probably flips around but Adobe (and others) have a large and captive contingent of Windows users to profit off.
- pier25 2y ago
  Adobe doesn't offer CAD and 3D animation products.
  - talldayo 2y ago
    [(and others)]
deleted 2y ago
[deleted]
racl101 2y ago
I have but it was corporate, fintech setting where Windows stations rule the place. She was a really good graphics designer too. Surprised me as well.
dylan604 2y ago
I've been forced to use Windows in the creative graphics world. Back long ago in the dark ages, I did layout/graphics for a 'zine that was all done on Windows NT with Adobe software delivered to press on a Syquest disk. More recently (2017ish), I was on Windows 7 for another stint at graphics. Maybe I've just had the misfortune that others have been able to avoid??
ihateolives 2y ago
Yes you are. You probably live in the US, Canada or the UK.
hifromwork 2y ago
We all live in our own bubbles. I never saw a tech person using MacOS, it's always Windows or Linux - I assume that's not your experience either (and I only know a few people using MacOS privately). That probably mostly depends on the country one resides in.
- 59nadir 2y ago
  Well, the view laid out here also corresponds to actual statistical reality: About 29% of developers reported using Macs (of any kind) as of a few years ago, it's not even close to "most", as some HN visitors would have you believe. The bubble is very real. Statistically speaking there was no "most developers use this", but the closest OS offering was Windows at 45%. Given Apple's poor performance on the OS side the past few years I'm not sure the hardware has managed to keep users on their side anyway; they even lost DHH very publicly not that long ago... So the numbers might be even worse now. Edit: In the latest StackOverflow survey 31.8% of developers report using MacOS (for personal and professional use), 57.9%/47.6% for Windows (personal/professional use). So both MacOS and Windows are eating into Linux's share at the moment, with Windows offering them to instead run Linux inside of Windows.
saaaaaam 2y ago
"graphics people" aren't the core people using Adobe's products though. As evidenced by the terrible designs people keep cranking out using photoshop. And by the huge market for terrible-design-by-numbers Canva.com
fortran77 2y ago
Really? I worked in Hollywood for many years and all the color grading and photo editing was done on PCs with Sony professional color grading monitors, which weren't supported right on Macs.

pier25 2y ago

Pixelmator could never compete with Adobe. Their expertise is on Mac and until now they didn't have the resources to make a big product like Photoshop or Illustrator (at some point they shared the idea of making a vector graphics product but it was abandoned). Another point is macOS has a significant market share in the creative industries. Personally I know zero designers/illustrators using Windows. My hunch is Mac users represent probably 50% or more of Adobe users.

fny 2y ago

What if it becomes another iMovie or Garageband?

themagician 2y ago

Affinity was acquired by Canva.

nacs 2y ago
Yep, I wish Apple had acquired them instead. Canva is.. not a good company.
- fratlas 2y ago
  Canva left the buy once affinity model untouched, and are an ethical company.
- auscompgeek 2y ago
  Curious why you think Canva isn't a good company?

wkat4242 2y ago

I don't think Apple bought this to mothball it. That only makes sense if it competes with your own products. Which this doesn't.

echoangle 2y ago
I think the point was that cross-platform is mothballed now, there probably won't be a windows version of pixelmator now.
- groby_b 2y ago
  There never was going to be one. The pixelmator team is deeply steeped in the Apple world, and I seriously doubt they'd ever consider Windows.

latexr 2y ago

> If Microsoft acquired Affinity next They have already been acquired (by Canva) earlier this year. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39824191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39824191