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Been following this via proxy, i.e. Sabine Hossenfelder, for a few years. The charges are very solid afaict.

by dingdingdang 2y ago

drpossum 2y ago
Would you recommend following only Sabine to be a good way to get a thoughtful and unbiased view of the issue?
- f1shy 2y ago
  Not only of course, but I find is a good reference point, as somebody that was right in the middle of it, got out, and has nothing to loose saying what she thinks is true. She could very well be doing videos explaining all the models she does not believe, and have much more subscribers.
  - drpossum 2y ago
    The question was to the person above where it seemed like that's what they were doing and then expected us to take their view as something worth considering. It was giving them an opportunity for them to explain their position and give themselves credibility.
    - belter 2y ago
      Your credibility is also suffering, as you failed to explain where Sabine is wrong...
      - drpossum 2y ago
        Was I attacking Sabine or was I saying trusting a single source to inform the entirety of a view of a non-expert about a debatable topic is perhaps not responsible?
delichon 2y ago
As a layman who has been following this topic for decades and has read many popularizations by leading physicists, and had a good undergraduate education in math and physics ... I have no clue how solid the charges are. My background on this is way too weak to justify holding an opinion. I generally don't hesitate in opining about things I'm mostly clueless about but in this case my ignorance is so vast that it is obvious even to me. If the greatest physicists can't agree on an abstruse physics topic I can't imagine what the opinion of a rando web dev might add.
throwaway4220 2y ago
I am a big fan of Sabine. Recent video on her by prof dave explains made me think though. https://travisporter.bearblog.dev/new-post/ https://travisporter.bearblog.dev/new-post/
- belter 2y ago
  That video in turn, has a great and extensive comment from @throwaway4179-s7d that raised Sabinne credibility, and actual decreases the one from Professor Dave Explains.
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- iwontberude 2y ago
  He attacked her and her audience, it was hardly an indictment on her arguments. Dripping with ad hominem.

Been following this via proxy, i.e. Sabine Hossenfelder, for a few years. The charges are very solid afaict.

drpossum 2y ago

Would you recommend following only Sabine to be a good way to get a thoughtful and unbiased view of the issue?

f1shy 2y ago
Not only of course, but I find is a good reference point, as somebody that was right in the middle of it, got out, and has nothing to loose saying what she thinks is true. She could very well be doing videos explaining all the models she does not believe, and have much more subscribers.
- drpossum 2y ago
  The question was to the person above where it seemed like that's what they were doing and then expected us to take their view as something worth considering. It was giving them an opportunity for them to explain their position and give themselves credibility.
  - belter 2y ago
    Your credibility is also suffering, as you failed to explain where Sabine is wrong...
    - drpossum 2y ago
      Was I attacking Sabine or was I saying trusting a single source to inform the entirety of a view of a non-expert about a debatable topic is perhaps not responsible?

delichon 2y ago

As a layman who has been following this topic for decades and has read many popularizations by leading physicists, and had a good undergraduate education in math and physics ... I have no clue how solid the charges are. My background on this is way too weak to justify holding an opinion. I generally don't hesitate in opining about things I'm mostly clueless about but in this case my ignorance is so vast that it is obvious even to me. If the greatest physicists can't agree on an abstruse physics topic I can't imagine what the opinion of a rando web dev might add.

throwaway4220 2y ago

I am a big fan of Sabine. Recent video on her by prof dave explains made me think though. https://travisporter.bearblog.dev/new-post/ https://travisporter.bearblog.dev/new-post/

belter 2y ago
That video in turn, has a great and extensive comment from @throwaway4179-s7d that raised Sabinne credibility, and actual decreases the one from Professor Dave Explains.
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iwontberude 2y ago
He attacked her and her audience, it was hardly an indictment on her arguments. Dripping with ad hominem.