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> absolutely nailed it with their AI approach. Thankfully, Kagi also have a toggle to completely turn that crap (AI) off so it never appears. Personally, I ha

> absolutely nailed it with their AI approach. Thankfully, Kagi also have a toggle to completely turn that crap (AI) off so it never appears. Personally, I have absolutely no use for a product that can randomly generate false information. I'm not even interested until that's solved. (If/when it ever is though, at that point I'm open to taking a look) So yeah, Kagi definitely "leads the way" on this. By giving the user a choice to not waste time presenting AI crap. :)

bdangubic 2y ago
You have no use for a product that can randomly generate false information but you trust google to provide you with search results based on how much they were paid for those keywords?… give me ai hallucinations over google every day of the week and twice on sunday…
- Barrin92 2y ago
  >but you trust google to provide you with search results based on how much they were paid for those keywords? Google isn't paid for keywords, that's not how search works. They sell ad space, Google does not rank up search content for payment. And also the obvious point is, you don't need to trust Google because they merely point you to content, they don't produce the content. They're an index for real existing content on the web which you can judge for yourself. A search index unlike an AI model, does not output uniform or even synthetic content.
  - hedora 2y ago
    Google makes money if you click through to a site that displays Google ads. This includes doubleclick, which is pay per impression and is owned by Google.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    “Google does not rank search content for payment” might be the funniest thing I read all year on this site…
- justinclift 2y ago
  > but you trust google ??? Looks like my comment wasn't as clear as I thought. I do not trust Google at all, and don't use it. That's why I pay for Kagi. And Kagi has an option to disable the AI crap, so it's just like "a good search engine" instead, which is all I need. A high quality search engine without ads, and without hallucinated bullshit.

bdangubic 2y ago

You have no use for a product that can randomly generate false information but you trust google to provide you with search results based on how much they were paid for those keywords?… give me ai hallucinations over google every day of the week and twice on sunday…

Barrin92 2y ago
>but you trust google to provide you with search results based on how much they were paid for those keywords? Google isn't paid for keywords, that's not how search works. They sell ad space, Google does not rank up search content for payment. And also the obvious point is, you don't need to trust Google because they merely point you to content, they don't produce the content. They're an index for real existing content on the web which you can judge for yourself. A search index unlike an AI model, does not output uniform or even synthetic content.
- hedora 2y ago
  Google makes money if you click through to a site that displays Google ads. This includes doubleclick, which is pay per impression and is owned by Google.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  “Google does not rank search content for payment” might be the funniest thing I read all year on this site…
justinclift 2y ago
> but you trust google ??? Looks like my comment wasn't as clear as I thought. I do not trust Google at all, and don't use it. That's why I pay for Kagi. And Kagi has an option to disable the AI crap, so it's just like "a good search engine" instead, which is all I need. A high quality search engine without ads, and without hallucinated bullshit.