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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=door+bolt+not+closing https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=door+bolt+not+c... https://www.youtube.com/resu

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=door+bolt+not+closing https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=door+bolt+not+c... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=path+of+exile+2+gameplay https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=path+of+exile+2... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ramen+restaurant+chef https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ramen+restauran... When I search these three things the first 5 results are exactly what I want. What exactly are you searching of the time that it's "completely useless"? Genuine question.

zarzavat 2y ago
There's a difference between searching for a topic and searching for an item. All of those are topic searches. Try searching for a particular video, one that is not super popular. What I want is a complete list of results that match my query. What I get is YouTube trying to recommend videos to me.
- okdood64 2y ago
  I don't understand your use case. If I know the exact title of the video, it finds it. Everytime. If you try to describe a non-popular video it just becomes a crapshoot on what to give you if there's no word/tag watching. You'd need some hint of the channel name or something. The volume of low viewership videos is incredibly high. Can you give me a real example of something you've tried to do?
  - sph 2y ago
    Just try any search. A few results, and then google tries to recommend you completely unrelated, popular videos within your search results.
  - selfhoster11 2y ago
    It finds that video, yes. But it also "finds" an unrelated pile of other videos that are not related at all.
    - krainboltgreene 2y ago
      Okay so it does work.
  - DominikPeters 2y ago
    > If I know the exact title of the video, it finds it. Everytime. This is unfortunately not true. I have a little channel and there have been times when searching for the exact title of some of my videos did not return it in the results at all (searching with quotes or not). Cannot reproduce now because the search algorithm has now started liking me.
- mda 2y ago
  So it becomes "completely useless" when it gives you the correct answer but also recommends some other videos?
  - nsagent 2y ago
    When the videos are completely unrelated to your search, but just happen to be new/popular videos, then yes it's useless. Surfacing relevant videos would make sense. For example, searching for climbing comp videos and getting a completely unrelated video about some new tech gadget released within the last couple days from a random popular content creators makes no sense. Clearly, it works for Google (content creators intentionally make click-baity thumbnails and titles because Google encourages it), but it's user hostile: it's designed to suck you into a vortex, which is not what the user was intending in the first place. That said, all content platforms do this right now, so my intention isn't singling out Google. It's frustrating nonetheless.
greenavocado 2y ago
Here's a good one I just saw because Joe Rogan complained about it. Search youtube for: trump podcast. You won't find the most important one. It's all MSM and useless clips of other interviews.
- morsch 2y ago
  The top search result for me -- below German news snippets complaining about US politics -- is Joe Rogan Experience #2219 - Donald Trump on Youtube, presumably what you're looking for. It's also number 3, the same thing on Spotify.
  - greenavocado 2y ago
    Are you accessing YouTube from outside of the United States?
- samtheprogram 2y ago
  I think this case is a little different because it’s clearly censorship, not a search quality issue. Now that the JD Vance podcast is out, that’s the first result; then it’s all MSM. Wow.
mda 2y ago
I guess people's perception becomes extremely skewed when they are disappointed with something. After this you give them examples and they swiftly move the goal post.

zarzavat 2y ago

There's a difference between searching for a topic and searching for an item. All of those are topic searches. Try searching for a particular video, one that is not super popular. What I want is a complete list of results that match my query. What I get is YouTube trying to recommend videos to me.

okdood64 2y ago
I don't understand your use case. If I know the exact title of the video, it finds it. Everytime. If you try to describe a non-popular video it just becomes a crapshoot on what to give you if there's no word/tag watching. You'd need some hint of the channel name or something. The volume of low viewership videos is incredibly high. Can you give me a real example of something you've tried to do?
- sph 2y ago
  Just try any search. A few results, and then google tries to recommend you completely unrelated, popular videos within your search results.
- selfhoster11 2y ago
  It finds that video, yes. But it also "finds" an unrelated pile of other videos that are not related at all.
  - krainboltgreene 2y ago
    Okay so it does work.
- DominikPeters 2y ago
  > If I know the exact title of the video, it finds it. Everytime. This is unfortunately not true. I have a little channel and there have been times when searching for the exact title of some of my videos did not return it in the results at all (searching with quotes or not). Cannot reproduce now because the search algorithm has now started liking me.
mda 2y ago
So it becomes "completely useless" when it gives you the correct answer but also recommends some other videos?
- nsagent 2y ago
  When the videos are completely unrelated to your search, but just happen to be new/popular videos, then yes it's useless. Surfacing relevant videos would make sense. For example, searching for climbing comp videos and getting a completely unrelated video about some new tech gadget released within the last couple days from a random popular content creators makes no sense. Clearly, it works for Google (content creators intentionally make click-baity thumbnails and titles because Google encourages it), but it's user hostile: it's designed to suck you into a vortex, which is not what the user was intending in the first place. That said, all content platforms do this right now, so my intention isn't singling out Google. It's frustrating nonetheless.

greenavocado 2y ago

Here's a good one I just saw because Joe Rogan complained about it. Search youtube for: trump podcast. You won't find the most important one. It's all MSM and useless clips of other interviews.

morsch 2y ago
The top search result for me -- below German news snippets complaining about US politics -- is Joe Rogan Experience #2219 - Donald Trump on Youtube, presumably what you're looking for. It's also number 3, the same thing on Spotify.
- greenavocado 2y ago
  Are you accessing YouTube from outside of the United States?
samtheprogram 2y ago
I think this case is a little different because it’s clearly censorship, not a search quality issue. Now that the JD Vance podcast is out, that’s the first result; then it’s all MSM. Wow.

mda 2y ago

I guess people's perception becomes extremely skewed when they are disappointed with something. After this you give them examples and they swiftly move the goal post.