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> Reality is that the kid will be a loser / outsider due to no phone. That is supposition, not reality, and there are parents here who have shared their experi

by bigstrat2003 2y ago

> Reality is that the kid will be a loser / outsider due to no phone. That is supposition, not reality, and there are parents here who have shared their experience with kids having a healthy social life without a phone. More importantly, a very important role of parents is to make good decisions for their kids when the kids are still too immature to do that. "But all my friends are doing it" is literal child reasoning and should not be the only factor in parenting decisions.

rvba 2y ago
If the kids are "parented" by terror, not actual teaching, they will have a problem once they leave their bubble. Never met that guy who drank every day at university or that opressed girl who fucked 50 people in the first year? Sheltered and not parented kids end like that. Breaking the chain syndrome.
ziddoap 2y ago
>and there are parents here who have shared their experience with kids having a healthy social life without a phone. And there are others who have shared their experiences of responsibly teaching their kids how to coexist with technology. There's probably a lot more that aren't willing to say so, because they'll be roasted in the comments for being a "bad parent". I don't let my kids have unfettered access to social media. But I let them have a smartphone. And I took the time initially, and continually, to have conversations about having a healthy relationship with technology. Somehow this debate is always completely lacking in any sort of middle ground or nuance.
- kawogi 2y ago
  I wholeheartedly agree. I think it's more important to talk about the services they use than what device they're on. And most problematic services already have an age limit. It's the parents' damn job to make sure their kids are prepared for the usage of those services. I'm more worried about the youtube-consumption on the PC than chatting with class-mates about school-related questions via smartphone.

rvba 2y ago

If the kids are "parented" by terror, not actual teaching, they will have a problem once they leave their bubble. Never met that guy who drank every day at university or that opressed girl who fucked 50 people in the first year? Sheltered and not parented kids end like that. Breaking the chain syndrome.

ziddoap 2y ago

>and there are parents here who have shared their experience with kids having a healthy social life without a phone. And there are others who have shared their experiences of responsibly teaching their kids how to coexist with technology. There's probably a lot more that aren't willing to say so, because they'll be roasted in the comments for being a "bad parent". I don't let my kids have unfettered access to social media. But I let them have a smartphone. And I took the time initially, and continually, to have conversations about having a healthy relationship with technology. Somehow this debate is always completely lacking in any sort of middle ground or nuance.

kawogi 2y ago
I wholeheartedly agree. I think it's more important to talk about the services they use than what device they're on. And most problematic services already have an age limit. It's the parents' damn job to make sure their kids are prepared for the usage of those services. I'm more worried about the youtube-consumption on the PC than chatting with class-mates about school-related questions via smartphone.