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I know the site clarifies it, but the headline messaging on this is meaninglessly confusing. "Wait until 8th!" "Oh, you mean their 8th birthday?" "No, 8th gr
by diputsmonro 2y ago
I know the site clarifies it, but the headline messaging on this is meaninglessly confusing.
"Wait until 8th!"
"Oh, you mean their 8th birthday?"
"No, 8th grade!"
"Oh, so wait until they're in 8th grade, got it!"
"No no, until the end of the 8th grade, when they graduate middle school!"
"Oh, so it's really wait until 9th"
Just seems like this would be the beginning of every conversation and lead to a non-unified approach. They should emphasize it being like an intro to high-school gift or something.
- Nition 2y agoAgreed 100%. Additional factors on top of all those is some countries start year 1 at age five, and others at age 6, and of course there's a variety of actual ages within a grade as well. "Wait Until 9th" would have definitely helped a lot. "Wait until 14" might be even clearer. Or even "wait until high school".
- socksy 2y agoI mean as a non American, I think this is one of the most American sites I've seen all week, and do not get the impression that they will particularly mind if it's ambiguous for other people in other countries
- Nition 2y agoThat's fair, it's certainly very USA-centric (although they should still call it "Wait Until 9th"!).
- iwontberude 2y agoYou work with the domains you have/can register.
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- fsckboy 2y agotill I read it, i thought it meant the 8th of November,† and I was thinking "does this have something to do with the election?" I was a little afraid to click "take the pledge" for fear of what I might be supporting † obscure trivial point of US law for fer'ners, US elections are held on "the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November" which puts them anywhere from Nov 2 to Nov 8, so that's why "wait till the 8th" is an election trigger. (I don't keep track of the date of the election this year, I just need to know it's going to be on Tuesday)
- scoot 2y agoSo the second Tuesday of November, or am I missing an exception?
- great_wubwub 2y agoIf November 1st is a Monday then the first Tuesday after that is the first Tuesday of the month.
- fsckboy 2y agoyes, or to put it another way, it's the first Tuesday of the month unless the first Tuesday is November 1st, then it's the second Tuesday, November 8th pointing it out because it's always the first Tuesday unless that 1 out of 7 where you have to wait a week -1 for the first Monday. I think the reasoning is something like "we need to have a full business day in November before we have an election, that will give us a chance to fix problems or something"... not sure if under the old county/shire system months made a difference or something.
- scoot 2y agoGot it now. Yes, I was missing something (obvious).
- troupe 2y agoI initially thought it was saying we should not expect to have the results of the election sorted out until the 8th.
- jrussino 2y agoI really like this program but yeah, the very first time someone told me about it my initial reaction was "Wait until 8??? That's way too young!"
- esquivalience 2y ago"Let 'em whine until ninth" just didn't have the same ring to it.
- CyberDildonics 2y agoIt's supposed to be vague and confusing, it's part of the clickbait.
- grugagag 2y agoClickbait is always to sell you something, this is the opposite. But I think the ambiguity helps, it’s not a specific cutoff date that is important but delaying the inevitable. Smartphone use at that age could bad, I’m thinking scammers paradise type of bad but with a different context. Middleschoolers aren’t scams targets but are perfect for being primed with nefarious things, think crypto and nfts, porn, gambling, addictive gaming and bad culture. I turned a blind eye on memes for a long time just because people do and like silly things but I’ve seen some disturbing memes out there. My kid is definitely not getting a smartphone till he understands some things.
- CyberDildonics 2y agoClickbait is always to sell you something, Where did you get this idea? People put something on the internet and they want attention and engagement. Then people use click bait to get people to look at something because they are curious or confused instead of knowing what it is from the title.
- grugagag 2y agoThey sell you attention to something you didn’t expect. Click and bait says it all. In this case it’s something benefic, not selling you a device or service to help you in advertised ways. It’s just campaign to get kids away form smartphone and social media harm. I would not classify this as clickbait or self promotion. When you have kids you’ll think this more deeply and escape the knee jerk reaction that I don’t condemn at all. The web is mostly clickbait for self promotion.
- CyberDildonics 2y agoIn this case it’s something benefic, Not sure what this means. not selling you a device or service to help you in advertised ways Again, click bait means getting you to click on something in ways other than telling you what the article is about. Anything published on the internet wants readers. I don't know where you got the idea that 'clickbait' only applies to direct advertisements, but you should move past that.
- drcongo 2y agoI'm in the UK and have no idea what age 8th grade even is.
- gnabgib 2y agoSame as Year 7
- Bengalilol 2y agoI am from Switzerland, does this mean 13-14 years old ?
- mrbombastic 2y agoYes exactly
- reverius42 2y agoYes, but because it's actually "wait until after 8th", it's more like 14-15.
- AndriiUA 2y agoNo, in the UK, Year 7 is 11-12 year old, In the US, Grade 8 is 13-14 year old
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- grugagag 2y agoMaybe it’s intended to use ambiguity as a means of generating a conversation that sticks.