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Maybe it's just me but I have no interest in having a computer algorithm interpret data for me. That's a job that I want to do myself.

by lottin 2y ago

swyx 2y ago
then you are blissfully unaware of how much data is already being interpreted for you by computer algorithms, and how much you probably actually really like it.
- lottin 2y ago
  What do you mean?
- orthecreedence 2y ago
  > how much you probably actually really like it. This comes off as condescending. As things have gotten more algorithmic over the last two decades, I've noticed a matching decrease in the accuracy and relevance of the information I seek from the systems I interact with that employ these algorithms. Yes, you're right that there are processing algorithms behind the scenes interpreting the data for us. But you're wrong: I fucking hate it, it's made things worse, and layering more on top will not make things any better.
esafak 2y ago
Ranking the results is a prerequisite for any search engine, and that's interpretation, isn't it?
- lottin 2y ago
  No, I wouldn't say that. I mean they could try to influence what sources I check first, but I'm the one doing the interpretation.
  - esafak 2y ago
    So summarization is interpretation but ranking and filtering are not. Most would disagree.
    - lottin 2y ago
      I don't think anyone can disagree. If you ask someone to give you an interpretation of the works of, say, Allen Ginsberg, or of the theory of relativity, and they come back with a pile of documents ordered in some fashion, you won't be satisfied because that's not what you asked for.
crakenzak 2y ago
Sure, then just do that. No one will hold you at gunpoint and force you to use any kind of tool.
- lottin 2y ago
  The criticism isn't that they are forcing me to use this tool.
Kiro 2y ago
99.99% of all data is complete garbage and impossible for a human to sift through. Most spam email doesn't even end up in your spam inbox. It gets stopped long before that.
sethammons 2y ago
You prefer the spam laden inboxes of yore? I sure a shit don't. Gmail's spam filtering saves so much crap from my inbox

Maybe it's just me but I have no interest in having a computer algorithm interpret data for me. That's a job that I want to do myself.

by lottin 2y ago

Maybe it's just me but I have no interest in having a computer algorithm interpret data for me. That's a job that I want to do myself.

swyx 2y ago

then you are blissfully unaware of how much data is already being interpreted for you by computer algorithms, and how much you probably actually really like it.

lottin 2y ago
What do you mean?
orthecreedence 2y ago
> how much you probably actually really like it. This comes off as condescending. As things have gotten more algorithmic over the last two decades, I've noticed a matching decrease in the accuracy and relevance of the information I seek from the systems I interact with that employ these algorithms. Yes, you're right that there are processing algorithms behind the scenes interpreting the data for us. But you're wrong: I fucking hate it, it's made things worse, and layering more on top will not make things any better.

esafak 2y ago

Ranking the results is a prerequisite for any search engine, and that's interpretation, isn't it?

lottin 2y ago
No, I wouldn't say that. I mean they could try to influence what sources I check first, but I'm the one doing the interpretation.
- esafak 2y ago
  So summarization is interpretation but ranking and filtering are not. Most would disagree.
  - lottin 2y ago
    I don't think anyone can disagree. If you ask someone to give you an interpretation of the works of, say, Allen Ginsberg, or of the theory of relativity, and they come back with a pile of documents ordered in some fashion, you won't be satisfied because that's not what you asked for.

crakenzak 2y ago

Sure, then just do that. No one will hold you at gunpoint and force you to use any kind of tool.

lottin 2y ago
The criticism isn't that they are forcing me to use this tool.

Kiro 2y ago

99.99% of all data is complete garbage and impossible for a human to sift through. Most spam email doesn't even end up in your spam inbox. It gets stopped long before that.

sethammons 2y ago

You prefer the spam laden inboxes of yore? I sure a shit don't. Gmail's spam filtering saves so much crap from my inbox