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Those are long hauls, but in Illinois it’s pretty common to drive to places like Nashville or Atlanta. We drive to Orlando so that we don’t have to deal with fl

Those are long hauls, but in Illinois it’s pretty common to drive to places like Nashville or Atlanta. We drive to Orlando so that we don’t have to deal with flying. That’s a long one but not bad. An EV would add a lot of time and risk.

modeless 2y ago
You drive 30+ hours round trip to avoid 6 hours of flying? Sure, add on a bunch of hours to get to and through the airports, it's still not close.
- gjsman-1000 2y ago
  > You drive 30+ hours round trip to avoid 6 hours of flying? Lots of people do. If you are making $60K a year (the median in the US - half of employed people make less), and you have 3 children and live in California, what's your plan to visit relatives in, say, Nebraska? Buy 10 plane tickets? Driving the 2,600 miles both ways, at 25 MPG, will cost you "only" $320 round trip.
  - modeless 2y ago
    I understand the cost issue for a large family, but he said "so that we don’t have to deal with flying", not "it's too expensive". Also, SFO to JFK is as low as $640 round trip for a family of 5 on the right days, and $760 in gas at 25 MPG and $3.30/gal. Plus you're going to need several nights of lodging unless you want to spend 40 straight hours in a car packed with kids. I see you edited your comment to change the destination to Nebraska to make your numbers look better. Round trip SFO to Omaha for a family of 5 can be had for $655 according to Google Flights, vs. $440 in gas at 25 MPG and $3.30/gal, but again you'll need at least two nights of lodging for the whole family, and on a trip that long you should also account for part of an oil change and tire change and other car maintenance expenses.
    - mckn1ght 2y ago
      Not to mention the cost of your time, which should factor highly for well paid people that can afford to fly anyways, and if you are low paid, it’s likely your vacation time is scarce, so you wouldn’t want to use it all in the transport. The comparison just makes no sense to me. I take road trips because I love road trips, not because I think the economics are somehow better than flying.
- nsxwolf 2y ago
  I don't enjoy getting 4 kids through the TSA line, while trying to get my belt back on and not have my wallet stolen. I don't enjoy parking at the airport and having my license plate sticker stolen and have to deal with 6 tickets because of it. Among other things.
  - modeless 2y ago
    I'll take 30 minutes in line and 5 minutes of fiddling with personal belongings over 30 hours driving a car packed with 4 kids every day of the week and twice on Sunday. 30 hours! Even if my whole license plate was stolen every time it'd still be worth it.

modeless 2y ago

You drive 30+ hours round trip to avoid 6 hours of flying? Sure, add on a bunch of hours to get to and through the airports, it's still not close.

gjsman-1000 2y ago
> You drive 30+ hours round trip to avoid 6 hours of flying? Lots of people do. If you are making $60K a year (the median in the US - half of employed people make less), and you have 3 children and live in California, what's your plan to visit relatives in, say, Nebraska? Buy 10 plane tickets? Driving the 2,600 miles both ways, at 25 MPG, will cost you "only" $320 round trip.
- modeless 2y ago
  I understand the cost issue for a large family, but he said "so that we don’t have to deal with flying", not "it's too expensive". Also, SFO to JFK is as low as $640 round trip for a family of 5 on the right days, and $760 in gas at 25 MPG and $3.30/gal. Plus you're going to need several nights of lodging unless you want to spend 40 straight hours in a car packed with kids. I see you edited your comment to change the destination to Nebraska to make your numbers look better. Round trip SFO to Omaha for a family of 5 can be had for $655 according to Google Flights, vs. $440 in gas at 25 MPG and $3.30/gal, but again you'll need at least two nights of lodging for the whole family, and on a trip that long you should also account for part of an oil change and tire change and other car maintenance expenses.
  - mckn1ght 2y ago
    Not to mention the cost of your time, which should factor highly for well paid people that can afford to fly anyways, and if you are low paid, it’s likely your vacation time is scarce, so you wouldn’t want to use it all in the transport. The comparison just makes no sense to me. I take road trips because I love road trips, not because I think the economics are somehow better than flying.
nsxwolf 2y ago
I don't enjoy getting 4 kids through the TSA line, while trying to get my belt back on and not have my wallet stolen. I don't enjoy parking at the airport and having my license plate sticker stolen and have to deal with 6 tickets because of it. Among other things.
- modeless 2y ago
  I'll take 30 minutes in line and 5 minutes of fiddling with personal belongings over 30 hours driving a car packed with 4 kids every day of the week and twice on Sunday. 30 hours! Even if my whole license plate was stolen every time it'd still be worth it.