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I disagree, men in computer science are uniquely awkward, unaware, and often rude. I say this as a man in software. It's hard to have a conversation about the w

I disagree, men in computer science are uniquely awkward, unaware, and often rude. I say this as a man in software. It's hard to have a conversation about the weather that doesn't end with me being a bit frustrated. A lot of these guys really don't know how to speak to women, or how to speak in general in a welcoming, calm, non-offensive way. Maybe it's just the company I'm at but be aware this was also the case in college. It was hard to make friends when it seemed everyone was cosplaying an anime character while simultaneously bragging and trying to make me feel bad for my achievements, or lack thereof.

jasonm23 2y ago
> A lot of these guys really don't know how to speak to anyone.
zahlman 2y ago
It's always struck me as absurd that the same group of people can be described like this and then simultaneously blamed for an epidemic of "aggressive and inappropriate sexual advances". (See also: https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/01/01/untitled/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/01/01/untitled/)
- consteval 2y ago
  There are multiple reasons why. You'll notice that I mentioned they're typically rude and self-absorbed. To me, a man, I perceive that as such. But for a woman that could be seen as aggressive. Keep in mind also the media they might consume. I mentioned anime cosplaying in real life - and I mean it. Now, look at how anime depicts women. They're sexual objects for men's enjoyment and entertainment. But perhaps the biggest reason is men tend to get... overly confident in male-dominated spaces. This is something I've noticed since I was a child. All bets are off in locker rooms or at the poker table or in an online game. It's an opportunity to say the vilest things imaginable.
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    >But perhaps the biggest reason is men tend to get... overly confident in male-dominated spaces. ... It's an opportunity to say the vilest things imaginable. Yep, this is one big reason I hate being in all-male environments or workplaces. Men are usually much better behaved when there's some women around.

jasonm23 2y ago

> A lot of these guys really don't know how to speak to anyone.

zahlman 2y ago

It's always struck me as absurd that the same group of people can be described like this and then simultaneously blamed for an epidemic of "aggressive and inappropriate sexual advances". (See also: https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/01/01/untitled/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/01/01/untitled/)

consteval 2y ago
There are multiple reasons why. You'll notice that I mentioned they're typically rude and self-absorbed. To me, a man, I perceive that as such. But for a woman that could be seen as aggressive. Keep in mind also the media they might consume. I mentioned anime cosplaying in real life - and I mean it. Now, look at how anime depicts women. They're sexual objects for men's enjoyment and entertainment. But perhaps the biggest reason is men tend to get... overly confident in male-dominated spaces. This is something I've noticed since I was a child. All bets are off in locker rooms or at the poker table or in an online game. It's an opportunity to say the vilest things imaginable.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  >But perhaps the biggest reason is men tend to get... overly confident in male-dominated spaces. ... It's an opportunity to say the vilest things imaginable. Yep, this is one big reason I hate being in all-male environments or workplaces. Men are usually much better behaved when there's some women around.