> BenchmarksGame offers a much better close-up comparison by having much simpler submissions that mostly consist of code that you could totally see yourself wri

> BenchmarksGame offers a much better close-up comparison by having much simpler submissions that mostly consist of code that you could totally see yourself write in a regular setting Yeah, except if you are working on Web servers the quality of the framework and its supporting libraries is much more important than what code could theoretically achieve. What is the point of being able to 200 mph when you only ever drive up to 30mph. > Neither gives you the required low-level access, performance oriented APIs, ability to use zero-cost abstractions. Java is working on high performance abstractions, see Vector API (Simd) and project Valhalla (custom primitive types). Sure C# has a theoretical leg up (for which it paid dearly by causing backwards incompatibility with reified generics) but most of the libraries don't use low-level access or SIMD optimizations or what not.