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Does any of this matter in a normal life? Will I actually see actual difference if I throw away all my cook ware and replace it with non-non-stick ones and woo

Does any of this matter in a normal life? Will I actually see actual difference if I throw away all my cook ware and replace it with non-non-stick ones and wooden utensils? What about pollutants in the air from car and industry exhaust? Is this cookware worse? Should we first consider moving somewhere else than worry about cookware? What about just the ingredients you cook with? Is using teflon worse than buying highly processed foods? What about GMO vs non-GMO? What about grass fed/free range vs in-prison-meats? What about vegan vs meat? What I am trying to say is that it is easy to point to something that is (or even might be) toxic and say that we should fix it, but we have to put things in context. You simply can not be afraid of everything. Like drinking out of plastic vs glass vs metal, I know people who swear that drinking from a plastic cup is about the worst thing you can do, but I have been doing it my whole life and at least aren't dead yet.

whoitwas 2y ago
There are many things to consider and it's up to each individual. It can become exhausting if you choose to continue to learn and grow, but if you don't ... what are you doing?
- kelipso 2y ago
  There are still people who use plastic electric kettles. It's crazy out there.
- nextlevelwizard 2y ago
  Just living my life. If I live a year less because of my cookware then so be it.
  - whoitwas 2y ago
    I don't think it's like that. These substances cause nasty forms of cancer and are easily avoidable. I don't understand the purpose of Teflon other than to poison people. It's really odd how people follow even when they admit they're killing themselves for no benefit. Other than to fit in.
    - nextlevelwizard 2y ago
      A) Cookware is expensive B) Unless you scratch the hell out of your pan the teflon coating (probably) isn't that bad C) Cooking on a teflon pan is just so much more pleasurable
IG_Semmelweiss 2y ago
Heat is a transforming agent in nature, and time is the ultimate test. That's the context i think missed from your thesis. Every single thing you mention, except for cooking, does not get exposed to fundamental transformation via heat, or if they have (such as ingredients), they have passed the test of time (nutrients). Ingredients being heated has happened for millenia with fire wood and metal. This is why we care about what we cook and what we put into our bodies. Have we done this before for a long time? Was it safe for a long time? Time matters I can't say the same about teflon, highly processed foods, etc.
latentcall 2y ago
I never understood this argument. Would you eat a credit card? I mean, why not, you eat a credit cards worth of microplastics a week per this article: https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ENVIRONMENT-PLASTIC/0100B4TF2MQ/ https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ENVIRONMENT-PLASTIC/0100B4T... So let me ask you again. Its Friday. You have a rib eye, asparagus, and an old credit card on your plate. I’m sure you would not eat a credit card, and would think people were insane for doing so. So why not try and avoid it if you can. Sure you can’t avoid everything but if you can avoid some things in your control why wouldn’t you?
- nextlevelwizard 2y ago
  Well, for one it does not say that. And if that was the case does most of it just pass through me or why isn’t there hundreds of credit cards worth of plastic in my body? The argument is that you probably are doing way worse things health wise than using a teflon cookware or black plastic cooking utensils. This is just a scare click bait.
hnfong 2y ago
TBH it might not matter in a normal life for the individual. But (as long as the claims have some truth too it) statistically, it definitely matters. The "scares" are overwhelming only because you live in a society where things are (slightly) toxic by default, because those things are cheaper and can be engineered to barely pass safety standards. We can and should change this situation. Hopefully not on the individual level, but at least public awareness is useful. The "scares" are also overwhelming because some people are extreme in everything, for example the person who swears never to drink from a plastic cup. But it doesn't mean the opposite stance (i.e. drinking from plastic cups is good for you) is true. You can believe plastics are slightly bad for you without overreacting, and acknowledge that if it's feasible it's better to avoid them. Reacting emotionally to extremists isn't what a rational person would be doing.

whoitwas 2y ago

There are many things to consider and it's up to each individual. It can become exhausting if you choose to continue to learn and grow, but if you don't ... what are you doing?

kelipso 2y ago
There are still people who use plastic electric kettles. It's crazy out there.
nextlevelwizard 2y ago
Just living my life. If I live a year less because of my cookware then so be it.
- whoitwas 2y ago
  I don't think it's like that. These substances cause nasty forms of cancer and are easily avoidable. I don't understand the purpose of Teflon other than to poison people. It's really odd how people follow even when they admit they're killing themselves for no benefit. Other than to fit in.
  - nextlevelwizard 2y ago
    A) Cookware is expensive B) Unless you scratch the hell out of your pan the teflon coating (probably) isn't that bad C) Cooking on a teflon pan is just so much more pleasurable

IG_Semmelweiss 2y ago

Heat is a transforming agent in nature, and time is the ultimate test. That's the context i think missed from your thesis. Every single thing you mention, except for cooking, does not get exposed to fundamental transformation via heat, or if they have (such as ingredients), they have passed the test of time (nutrients). Ingredients being heated has happened for millenia with fire wood and metal. This is why we care about what we cook and what we put into our bodies. Have we done this before for a long time? Was it safe for a long time? Time matters I can't say the same about teflon, highly processed foods, etc.

latentcall 2y ago

I never understood this argument. Would you eat a credit card? I mean, why not, you eat a credit cards worth of microplastics a week per this article: https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ENVIRONMENT-PLASTIC/0100B4TF2MQ/ https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ENVIRONMENT-PLASTIC/0100B4T... So let me ask you again. Its Friday. You have a rib eye, asparagus, and an old credit card on your plate. I’m sure you would not eat a credit card, and would think people were insane for doing so. So why not try and avoid it if you can. Sure you can’t avoid everything but if you can avoid some things in your control why wouldn’t you?

nextlevelwizard 2y ago
Well, for one it does not say that. And if that was the case does most of it just pass through me or why isn’t there hundreds of credit cards worth of plastic in my body? The argument is that you probably are doing way worse things health wise than using a teflon cookware or black plastic cooking utensils. This is just a scare click bait.

hnfong 2y ago

TBH it might not matter in a normal life for the individual. But (as long as the claims have some truth too it) statistically, it definitely matters. The "scares" are overwhelming only because you live in a society where things are (slightly) toxic by default, because those things are cheaper and can be engineered to barely pass safety standards. We can and should change this situation. Hopefully not on the individual level, but at least public awareness is useful. The "scares" are also overwhelming because some people are extreme in everything, for example the person who swears never to drink from a plastic cup. But it doesn't mean the opposite stance (i.e. drinking from plastic cups is good for you) is true. You can believe plastics are slightly bad for you without overreacting, and acknowledge that if it's feasible it's better to avoid them. Reacting emotionally to extremists isn't what a rational person would be doing.