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You are the product. The editor is free afaik, and is very good. It has a plugin system and many languages have been added. It's really, really close to be my r

by keyle 2y ago

You are the product. The editor is free afaik, and is very good. It has a plugin system and many languages have been added. It's really, really close to be my replacement to intelliJ. Sadly many bugs are stopping that for now. They'll charge for integrations later, collaboration etc. I'm not sure exactly where the money is going to come from but I value a quality native IDE. I hope they don't stuff crap down our mouth in the future and simply charge a one time fee per version. But that of course is unlikely to happen. Every new version of IntelliJ I gasp that they F'd with something, and usually I'm right.

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TylerE 2y ago
I’ll have to give it a look. I’m an increasingly disenchanted IntelliJ customer also.
- gregoryl 2y ago
  I assume they did the same as with Rider, and made the UI objectively worse, rather than solve a million other things that actually need improvement (performance!)?
  - keyle 2y ago
    10 years ago, Intellij, 1 IDE to rule them all they said. There are 14-15 at my last count. Complete cash job. Bugs I reported went unanswered for 3 years and then swept under the carpet, still not fixed. Obvious stuff too. Breaking and annoying stuff. The best part was when they came out and claimed they had the best latency to screen rendering, long article explaining the technology etc. behind it. Mac just came out with retina screen, and their stuff is written in Java, did not handle any kind of graphics acceleration. It was a complete joke, just pressing 'aaaaaaaaaaa' on the keyboard would start lagging after 10 characters to seconds long to render. Insanely funny stuff. If you shrank the IDE to 1/4 of the screen it was much faster! yay. I stopped paying a little while back and jumped on the community edition for debugging and other IDEs to write the code. I'm sick of their antics.
Barrin92 2y ago
>It's really, really close to be my replacement to intelliJ Isn't Zed just a text editor? The last time I checked it out it didn't have any debugging features which doesn't really make it a replacement for an IntelliJ IDE.
- hu3 2y ago
  Wow it still doesn't support debugging it seems. https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/5065 https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/5065 People who use Zed now at work, sorry but you still print variables to debug issues? In 2024? Zed is investing in features to satisfy shareholders like AI and team collab but ignoring a basic functionality like interactive debugging is mind blowing.
- TiredOfLife 2y ago
  Zed is closer to VS Code than an ide like intelliJ or text editor like Sublime
monooso 2y ago
> You are the product. As far as I can tell from the Zed FAQs and license, this is false. Can you provide information to support this assertion?
- TiredOfLife 2y ago
  That's just the old copypasta: "If you don't pay for the product, you are the product"

by keyle 2y ago

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TylerE 2y ago

I’ll have to give it a look. I’m an increasingly disenchanted IntelliJ customer also.

gregoryl 2y ago
I assume they did the same as with Rider, and made the UI objectively worse, rather than solve a million other things that actually need improvement (performance!)?
- keyle 2y ago
  10 years ago, Intellij, 1 IDE to rule them all they said. There are 14-15 at my last count. Complete cash job. Bugs I reported went unanswered for 3 years and then swept under the carpet, still not fixed. Obvious stuff too. Breaking and annoying stuff. The best part was when they came out and claimed they had the best latency to screen rendering, long article explaining the technology etc. behind it. Mac just came out with retina screen, and their stuff is written in Java, did not handle any kind of graphics acceleration. It was a complete joke, just pressing 'aaaaaaaaaaa' on the keyboard would start lagging after 10 characters to seconds long to render. Insanely funny stuff. If you shrank the IDE to 1/4 of the screen it was much faster! yay. I stopped paying a little while back and jumped on the community edition for debugging and other IDEs to write the code. I'm sick of their antics.

Barrin92 2y ago

>It's really, really close to be my replacement to intelliJ Isn't Zed just a text editor? The last time I checked it out it didn't have any debugging features which doesn't really make it a replacement for an IntelliJ IDE.

hu3 2y ago
Wow it still doesn't support debugging it seems. https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/5065 https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/5065 People who use Zed now at work, sorry but you still print variables to debug issues? In 2024? Zed is investing in features to satisfy shareholders like AI and team collab but ignoring a basic functionality like interactive debugging is mind blowing.
TiredOfLife 2y ago
Zed is closer to VS Code than an ide like intelliJ or text editor like Sublime

monooso 2y ago

> You are the product. As far as I can tell from the Zed FAQs and license, this is false. Can you provide information to support this assertion?

TiredOfLife 2y ago
That's just the old copypasta: "If you don't pay for the product, you are the product"