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> I am thrilled to shell out thousands and thousands of dollars to purchase a machine that feels like it really belongs to me, from a company that respects my d

> I am thrilled to shell out thousands and thousands of dollars to purchase a machine that feels like it really belongs to me, from a company that respects my data and has aligned incentives. You either have have very low standards or very low understanding if you think a completely closed OS on top of completely closed hardware somehow means it 'really belongs' to you, or that your data/privacy is actually being respected.

asp_hornet 2y ago
Whats the alternative? Linux? Maybe OP likes that their OS doesnt crash when they close their laptop lid.
- WuxiFingerHold 2y ago
  It's not that bad anymore (e.g. with system 76), but I understand the point. I disagree with OP celebrating Apple to be the least evil of the evils. Yes, there are not many (if any) alternatives, but that doesn't make Apple great. It's just less shitty.
  - _shantaram 2y ago
    It feels like a lot of people in these threads form their opinions of what desktop Linux is like these days based on one poor experience from back in 2005.
    - pas 2y ago
      yesterday I booted into my Kubuntu installation. it's on a rusty spinning disk on purpose. even after half of a century since the mother of all demos we still cannot preload the fucking "start menu" or whatever is the more correct technical term for that thing that _eventually_ shows the applications when you click on it.
      - righthand 2y ago
        There’s a bug for this? Or are you just complaining thinking someone in the software contributors world can here you? I can’t even find how to open the Applications view in Finder 9/10 times on a Mac.
    - righthand 2y ago
      This an Apple zealot thread. They aren’t reasonable or actually interested in computing outside of Apple. They will talk shit about Linux all day in this thread or any other one but if you criticize Apple it’s to the guillotine for your comment. I’m surprised yours is still standing.
- seandoe 2y ago
  Crash? I understand people's gripes with ui, hardware compatibility, etc, but stability? All my Linux machines have always been very stable.
  - rtaylorgarlock 2y ago
    Me too. So stable that I'm becoming less and less tolerant for annoying issues in Windows, and further more motivated to make consumer linux even more available and reliable.
eilefsen 2y ago
"completely closed OS" is not accurate. apple releases a surprising amount of source code. https://opensource.apple.com/releases/ https://opensource.apple.com/releases/
- fsflover 2y ago
  The closed part has full control over your system, so the released code is useless for privacy/ownership.

asp_hornet 2y ago

Whats the alternative? Linux? Maybe OP likes that their OS doesnt crash when they close their laptop lid.

WuxiFingerHold 2y ago
It's not that bad anymore (e.g. with system 76), but I understand the point. I disagree with OP celebrating Apple to be the least evil of the evils. Yes, there are not many (if any) alternatives, but that doesn't make Apple great. It's just less shitty.
- _shantaram 2y ago
  It feels like a lot of people in these threads form their opinions of what desktop Linux is like these days based on one poor experience from back in 2005.
  - pas 2y ago
    yesterday I booted into my Kubuntu installation. it's on a rusty spinning disk on purpose. even after half of a century since the mother of all demos we still cannot preload the fucking "start menu" or whatever is the more correct technical term for that thing that _eventually_ shows the applications when you click on it.
    - righthand 2y ago
      There’s a bug for this? Or are you just complaining thinking someone in the software contributors world can here you? I can’t even find how to open the Applications view in Finder 9/10 times on a Mac.
  - righthand 2y ago
    This an Apple zealot thread. They aren’t reasonable or actually interested in computing outside of Apple. They will talk shit about Linux all day in this thread or any other one but if you criticize Apple it’s to the guillotine for your comment. I’m surprised yours is still standing.
seandoe 2y ago
Crash? I understand people's gripes with ui, hardware compatibility, etc, but stability? All my Linux machines have always been very stable.
- rtaylorgarlock 2y ago
  Me too. So stable that I'm becoming less and less tolerant for annoying issues in Windows, and further more motivated to make consumer linux even more available and reliable.

eilefsen 2y ago

"completely closed OS" is not accurate. apple releases a surprising amount of source code. https://opensource.apple.com/releases/ https://opensource.apple.com/releases/

fsflover 2y ago
The closed part has full control over your system, so the released code is useless for privacy/ownership.