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>fans pretend they won't pay whatever it takes to get in. Uh, no, I've abandoned multiple carts after seeing the final ticket price with hidden fees is 175% th

>fans pretend they won't pay whatever it takes to get in. Uh, no, I've abandoned multiple carts after seeing the final ticket price with hidden fees is 175% the advertised price. Those shows didn't end up selling out, either, they just left revenue sitting on the table. Entire live entertainment industry would be double digit % larger if the ticketing experience wasn't uniquely dogshit

grujicd 2y ago
Never seen it in Europe, visited concerts in dozen countries. There are some platform fees, but let's say 5% or at most 10%.
- mattmaroon 2y ago
  ‘Murica!
- reaperducer 2y ago
  Apparently 20% in the U.K.: https://www.which.co.uk/policy-and-insight/article/which-calls-for-crackdown-on-sneaky-gig-ticket-fees-as-new-laws-set-to-come-into-force-aG6rH3K3gMWg https://www.which.co.uk/policy-and-insight/article/which-cal... Also a problem down under: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-16/dynamic-pricing-hidden-fees-government-ban-four-corners/104477926 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-16/dynamic-pricing-hidde...
  - graemep 2y ago
    The UK article (from March this year) says the law was about to change to require clearer pricing
  - grujicd 2y ago
    Sadly, didn't visit any concert in UK, so couldn't include that datapoint in my anecdote.
- hnburnsy 2y ago
  That is why it was cheaper to buy a flight, hotel, and ticket to see Taylor Swift in Paris than to buy tickets to any show in the US.
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    It's generally like that for any vacation really: if you're an American, it's probably cheaper to book a flight and go to Europe for 2 weeks than to spend that time in America, unless you just spend your vacation time sitting at home. Hotels and restaurants are all absurdly overpriced in America these days, compared to Europe, so unless your vacation time is extremely short, the flight cost will be more than compensated for after a few days.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  Yep, it's the same here in Japan.
stevage 2y ago
Oh me too, I've abandoned several ticket purchases just because the entire experience was so unpleasant and required signing up for extra layers of crap along the way.
gffrd 2y ago
Well, you're not really a fan then, huh? Joking aside, for every you (or two you's), there's another person willing to shell out. Ticketmaster doesn't really care whether a venue is at 30% or 100% capacity so long as the artists and venue are happy, and fans keep buying tickets at a sustainable clip. Hell, they likely prefer a lower attendance so staffing costs are lower. This is a bit like skiing now: I've accepted it's just an activity for the addicted or the rich.
euroderf 2y ago
It's just part of the ongoing Sovietization of America. An illegitimate monopoly actor propped up by a decayed legal system. Are we having fun ?

grujicd 2y ago

Never seen it in Europe, visited concerts in dozen countries. There are some platform fees, but let's say 5% or at most 10%.

mattmaroon 2y ago
‘Murica!
reaperducer 2y ago
Apparently 20% in the U.K.: https://www.which.co.uk/policy-and-insight/article/which-calls-for-crackdown-on-sneaky-gig-ticket-fees-as-new-laws-set-to-come-into-force-aG6rH3K3gMWg https://www.which.co.uk/policy-and-insight/article/which-cal... Also a problem down under: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-16/dynamic-pricing-hidden-fees-government-ban-four-corners/104477926 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-16/dynamic-pricing-hidde...
- graemep 2y ago
  The UK article (from March this year) says the law was about to change to require clearer pricing
- grujicd 2y ago
  Sadly, didn't visit any concert in UK, so couldn't include that datapoint in my anecdote.
hnburnsy 2y ago
That is why it was cheaper to buy a flight, hotel, and ticket to see Taylor Swift in Paris than to buy tickets to any show in the US.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  It's generally like that for any vacation really: if you're an American, it's probably cheaper to book a flight and go to Europe for 2 weeks than to spend that time in America, unless you just spend your vacation time sitting at home. Hotels and restaurants are all absurdly overpriced in America these days, compared to Europe, so unless your vacation time is extremely short, the flight cost will be more than compensated for after a few days.
shiroiushi 2y ago
Yep, it's the same here in Japan.

stevage 2y ago

Oh me too, I've abandoned several ticket purchases just because the entire experience was so unpleasant and required signing up for extra layers of crap along the way.

gffrd 2y ago

Well, you're not really a fan then, huh? Joking aside, for every you (or two you's), there's another person willing to shell out. Ticketmaster doesn't really care whether a venue is at 30% or 100% capacity so long as the artists and venue are happy, and fans keep buying tickets at a sustainable clip. Hell, they likely prefer a lower attendance so staffing costs are lower. This is a bit like skiing now: I've accepted it's just an activity for the addicted or the rich.

euroderf 2y ago

It's just part of the ongoing Sovietization of America. An illegitimate monopoly actor propped up by a decayed legal system. Are we having fun ?