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> The most glaring issue is the battery which is really its weakest part. What are the issues? I thought BYD batteries were as good as they get? I am pretty s

> The most glaring issue is the battery which is really its weakest part. What are the issues? I thought BYD batteries were as good as they get? I am pretty sure Teslas sold in my country (NZ) have BYD batteries.

pclmulqdq 2y ago
If OP is comparing their experience in your BYD to Tesla's marketing material, that's not a correct comparison. Tesla battery ranges should generally be derated quite a bit to align them with how the rest of the industry measures range.
- jajko 2y ago
  And that goes only for rather flat terrain and non-cold environments. Otherwise the discrepancies end up just like consumption of ICE engines in ads vs reality.
- adriancr 2y ago
  Perhaps subjective but in my own experience range on tesla is slightly more then what was rated.
adriancr 2y ago
> What are the issues? I thought BYD batteries were as good as they get? BYD atto 3 that OP mentioned: - 420km wltp range on 60 kwh battery. Tesla model 3 rwd: - 554km wltp with 18" wheels - on 56kwh battery. so tesla is much more efficient while cost difference isnt that much at least in europe. (41k vs 39k)
- basiccalendar74 2y ago
  you are comparing a sedan and suv though. byd seal is a better comparison to model 3
  - adriancr 2y ago
    Allright, byd seal 46k euros, 570km wltp, 82.5kwh battery tesla model 3, rwd, long range, 46k euros, 702km wltp (18" wheels), 78.1kwh battery Tesla has quite impressive effiency... at same price with less battery...
    - Neonlicht 2y ago
      Tesla had to get the price down because of BYD. Competition is good!
    - nikau 2y ago
      What's real world side by side testing show?
      - adriancr 2y ago
        WLTP is a standardized test with real world conditions. It makes it easy to compare range under same conditions. if you want anything more I'm sure you can search yourself and come to any conclusion you want. Perhaps even share here if you want.
linkgoron 2y ago
Battery is fine by itself, but I'd say that the range is somewhere between 315-350km depending on terrain etc. Definitely not the 420km that's advertised. I knew this beforehand from reviews so it wasn't unexpected, but I'd be pretty angry if I didn't read about it from reviews before I got the car. For me it's fine as I still only charge once a week and I still have around 70%-80% usually, unless I visit remote relatives. I could probably stretch and recharge every other week if I really wanted to, but I prefer to have it ready as we sometimes do have longer drives.
- porphyra 2y ago
  Basically every electric car gets about 75% of its advertised range though. Except maybe the Porsche Taycan.
  - xster 2y ago
    Rivians are very accurate

pclmulqdq 2y ago

If OP is comparing their experience in your BYD to Tesla's marketing material, that's not a correct comparison. Tesla battery ranges should generally be derated quite a bit to align them with how the rest of the industry measures range.

jajko 2y ago
And that goes only for rather flat terrain and non-cold environments. Otherwise the discrepancies end up just like consumption of ICE engines in ads vs reality.
adriancr 2y ago
Perhaps subjective but in my own experience range on tesla is slightly more then what was rated.

adriancr 2y ago

> What are the issues? I thought BYD batteries were as good as they get? BYD atto 3 that OP mentioned: - 420km wltp range on 60 kwh battery. Tesla model 3 rwd: - 554km wltp with 18" wheels - on 56kwh battery. so tesla is much more efficient while cost difference isnt that much at least in europe. (41k vs 39k)

basiccalendar74 2y ago
you are comparing a sedan and suv though. byd seal is a better comparison to model 3
- adriancr 2y ago
  Allright, byd seal 46k euros, 570km wltp, 82.5kwh battery tesla model 3, rwd, long range, 46k euros, 702km wltp (18" wheels), 78.1kwh battery Tesla has quite impressive effiency... at same price with less battery...
  - Neonlicht 2y ago
    Tesla had to get the price down because of BYD. Competition is good!
  - nikau 2y ago
    What's real world side by side testing show?
    - adriancr 2y ago
      WLTP is a standardized test with real world conditions. It makes it easy to compare range under same conditions. if you want anything more I'm sure you can search yourself and come to any conclusion you want. Perhaps even share here if you want.

linkgoron 2y ago

Battery is fine by itself, but I'd say that the range is somewhere between 315-350km depending on terrain etc. Definitely not the 420km that's advertised. I knew this beforehand from reviews so it wasn't unexpected, but I'd be pretty angry if I didn't read about it from reviews before I got the car. For me it's fine as I still only charge once a week and I still have around 70%-80% usually, unless I visit remote relatives. I could probably stretch and recharge every other week if I really wanted to, but I prefer to have it ready as we sometimes do have longer drives.

porphyra 2y ago
Basically every electric car gets about 75% of its advertised range though. Except maybe the Porsche Taycan.
- xster 2y ago
  Rivians are very accurate