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Aside from the Knowledge Graph buzzword, isn't this exactly the same idea as Tim Berners-Lee and the Semantic Web back in 2001? - web of resources, not pages

Aside from the Knowledge Graph buzzword, isn't this exactly the same idea as Tim Berners-Lee and the Semantic Web back in 2001? - web of resources, not pages - ontology-based schema - RDF based encoding - URI (IRI) resource identifiers - Automated agents and reasoning (DL) support Considering the ensuing reception and general avoidance of the semantic web outside academic papers, I guess no one wants to talk about it.

shubb 2y ago
And there are related standards like HATEOAS for state full behaviour right? But this isn't about a new way of presenting information to rival sparql or something. This is a technical report about a guy who wrote a slightly advanced crawler bot that discovers the behaviour of a modern Web application and can maybe be used to generate automated tests. It has a lot in common with that post about a new yc company using llms to generate integrations for existing undocumented Web applications.
euroderf 2y ago
The paper seems kind of dismissive: > Knowledge graph-based systems, such as Squirrel [8], have been proposed to crawl the semantic web and represent data in structured formats. However, these approaches are typically limited to RDF-based web data and do not capture the dynamic, user-driven interactions seen in modern web applications.
- zcw100 2y ago
  How is this dismissive? It's a fairly straightforward statement of fact. The only way I could possibly read it as dismissive is if you interpreted it like, "These approaches are typically limited to [old, boring ass,] RDF-based web data and do not capture the [rich, luscious] dynamic, user driven interactions seen in [beautiful] modern web applications"
  - euroderf 2y ago
    "Dismissive" in the sense of "let's dismiss it for the remainder of this paper, because it does not apply here".

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Aside from the Knowledge Graph buzzword, isn't this exactly the same idea as Tim Berners-Lee and the Semantic Web back in 2001? - web of resources, not pages

by kmerroll 2y ago

shubb 2y ago
And there are related standards like HATEOAS for state full behaviour right? But this isn't about a new way of presenting information to rival sparql or something. This is a technical report about a guy who wrote a slightly advanced crawler bot that discovers the behaviour of a modern Web application and can maybe be used to generate automated tests. It has a lot in common with that post about a new yc company using llms to generate integrations for existing undocumented Web applications.
euroderf 2y ago
The paper seems kind of dismissive: > Knowledge graph-based systems, such as Squirrel [8], have been proposed to crawl the semantic web and represent data in structured formats. However, these approaches are typically limited to RDF-based web data and do not capture the dynamic, user-driven interactions seen in modern web applications.
- zcw100 2y ago
  How is this dismissive? It's a fairly straightforward statement of fact. The only way I could possibly read it as dismissive is if you interpreted it like, "These approaches are typically limited to [old, boring ass,] RDF-based web data and do not capture the [rich, luscious] dynamic, user driven interactions seen in [beautiful] modern web applications"
  - euroderf 2y ago
    "Dismissive" in the sense of "let's dismiss it for the remainder of this paper, because it does not apply here".