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As a European I find your assessment appalling. The oft repeated lie that Europe has protected its citizens against anything is bizarre, European governments on

As a European I find your assessment appalling. The oft repeated lie that Europe has protected its citizens against anything is bizarre, European governments only protect their big governments. The ban of US pesticides is to stifle American infiltration of EU agriculture, and basically every other law can be viewed under this lens. It is as if people live in a lie, they do not understand what has taken place in the past 200 years, the devastating destruction of the environment with pollution worldwide. As for protecting its citizens, what can really be said about this other than: ignorance is bliss.

biorach 2y ago
> The ban of US pesticides is to stifle American infiltration of EU agriculture, and basically every other law can be viewed under this lens. You really really need to cite some sources for this
- CarpaDorada 2y ago
  For my own opinions, if you'd like to hear more, you can just ask me. I will only provide the citation as a one-off... <https://www.britannica.com/topic/agriculture/Economics-politics-and-agriculture https://www.britannica.com/topic/agriculture/Economics-polit...>: >Agriculture has always been influenced by the actions of governments around the world. Never has this been more evident than during the first half of the 20th century, when two major wars profoundly disrupted food production. In response to the tumultuous economic climate, European countries implemented tariffs and other measures to protect local agriculture. ---Rasmussen, Wayne D. , Mellanby, Kenneth , Nair, Kusum , Gray, Alic William , Ordish, George , Crawford, Gary W. and Fussell, George Edwin. "origins of agriculture". Encyclopedia Britannica, 28 Oct. 2024, https://www.britannica.com/topic/agriculture https://www.britannica.com/topic/agriculture. Accessed 30 October 2024. This puts it in the context of WW2. Here's one example where you find the opposite of "protections" at play: in the US you need prescriptions for antibiotics, in EU 7% is without. <https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/sante/newsletter-archives/4487 https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/sante/newsletter-archives/4487> (their PDF link is broken; one that works is <https://health.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2020-06/amr_arna_report_20170717_en_0.pdf https://health.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2020-06/amr_arna_re...> "Antimicrobial resistance and causes of non-prudent use of antibiotics in human medicine in the EU" (2017)) Here's their Figure 2.6 e.g. <https://imgur.com/a/wLfoV7h https://imgur.com/a/wLfoV7h>.
  - razakel 2y ago
    Or it could be that people don't want to eat poison. You only have to look at the furore over chlorine-washed chicken post-Brexit to see that.
Y_Y 2y ago
> oft repeated lie that Europe has protected its citizens against anything is bizarre I, for one, enjoy having strict safety requirements for consumer products. I'm also glad to share this endeavour with many similar countries, since it would be wasteful and unfeasible for small nations otherwise.

biorach 2y ago

> The ban of US pesticides is to stifle American infiltration of EU agriculture, and basically every other law can be viewed under this lens. You really really need to cite some sources for this

CarpaDorada 2y ago
For my own opinions, if you'd like to hear more, you can just ask me. I will only provide the citation as a one-off... <https://www.britannica.com/topic/agriculture/Economics-politics-and-agriculture https://www.britannica.com/topic/agriculture/Economics-polit...>: >Agriculture has always been influenced by the actions of governments around the world. Never has this been more evident than during the first half of the 20th century, when two major wars profoundly disrupted food production. In response to the tumultuous economic climate, European countries implemented tariffs and other measures to protect local agriculture. ---Rasmussen, Wayne D. , Mellanby, Kenneth , Nair, Kusum , Gray, Alic William , Ordish, George , Crawford, Gary W. and Fussell, George Edwin. "origins of agriculture". Encyclopedia Britannica, 28 Oct. 2024, https://www.britannica.com/topic/agriculture https://www.britannica.com/topic/agriculture. Accessed 30 October 2024. This puts it in the context of WW2. Here's one example where you find the opposite of "protections" at play: in the US you need prescriptions for antibiotics, in EU 7% is without. <https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/sante/newsletter-archives/4487 https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/sante/newsletter-archives/4487> (their PDF link is broken; one that works is <https://health.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2020-06/amr_arna_report_20170717_en_0.pdf https://health.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2020-06/amr_arna_re...> "Antimicrobial resistance and causes of non-prudent use of antibiotics in human medicine in the EU" (2017)) Here's their Figure 2.6 e.g. <https://imgur.com/a/wLfoV7h https://imgur.com/a/wLfoV7h>.
- razakel 2y ago
  Or it could be that people don't want to eat poison. You only have to look at the furore over chlorine-washed chicken post-Brexit to see that.

Y_Y 2y ago

> oft repeated lie that Europe has protected its citizens against anything is bizarre I, for one, enjoy having strict safety requirements for consumer products. I'm also glad to share this endeavour with many similar countries, since it would be wasteful and unfeasible for small nations otherwise.