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Disingenuous to mention the x86 based MacBooks as a basis for comparison in their benchmarks; they are trying to conflate current-gen Intel with what they shipp

Disingenuous to mention the x86 based MacBooks as a basis for comparison in their benchmarks; they are trying to conflate current-gen Intel with what they shipped more than 4 years ago. Are they going to claim that 16GB RAM is equivalent to 32GB on Intel laptops? (/sarc)

wiremine 2y ago
It could see it as disingenuous, or a targeted message to those users still on those older x86 machines.
- Yabood 2y ago
  Exactly how I read it. I have an intel model, and the press release felt like a targeted ad.
alsetmusic 2y ago
Lot's of people don't upgrade on the cadence that users on this forum do. Someone was mentioning yesterday that they are trying to sell their Intel Mac {edit: on this forum] and asking advice on getting the best price. Someone else replied that they still had a 2017 model. I spoke to someone at my job (I'm IT) who told me they'd just ordered a new iMac to replace one that is 11 years old. There's no smoke and mirrors in letting such users know what they're in for.
- izacus 2y ago
  Right, it's obviously that, not a marketing trick to make numbers look much bigger while comparing to old CPUs and laptops :)
  - alsetmusic 2y ago
    Given that they also compare it to an M1 in the same aside, I'd say you're wrong. > Up to 23.8x faster basecalling for DNA sequencing in Oxford Nanopore MinKNOW when compared to the 16-inch MacBook Pro with Core i9, and up to 1.8x faster when compared to the 16-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Pro.
- postexitus 2y ago
  I have a 2013 Macbook Air as a casual browsing machine that's still going strong (by some definition of it) after a battery replacement.
- michaelmueller 2y ago
  Yup, I'm a developer who still primarily works on a 2018 Intel Mac. Apple's messaging felt very targeted towards me. Looking forward to getting the M4 Max as soon as possible!
  - trogdor 2y ago
    Oh, wow. You are in for a treat. The only downside is that your computer will no longer double as a space heater :p
    - orangecat 2y ago
      Indeed. The one positive feature of the 2019 MBP I briefly had to use was that my cat loved taking naps on it.
hu3 2y ago
They are going to milk these horrendous crazy hot x86 thermally throttled macs performance comparisons for a decade.
musictubes 2y ago
Ben Bejarin said that around 50% of the installed base is still using Macs with Intel chips. You’ll keep hearing that comparison until that number goes down.

wiremine 2y ago

It could see it as disingenuous, or a targeted message to those users still on those older x86 machines.

Yabood 2y ago
Exactly how I read it. I have an intel model, and the press release felt like a targeted ad.

alsetmusic 2y ago

Lot's of people don't upgrade on the cadence that users on this forum do. Someone was mentioning yesterday that they are trying to sell their Intel Mac {edit: on this forum] and asking advice on getting the best price. Someone else replied that they still had a 2017 model. I spoke to someone at my job (I'm IT) who told me they'd just ordered a new iMac to replace one that is 11 years old. There's no smoke and mirrors in letting such users know what they're in for.

izacus 2y ago
Right, it's obviously that, not a marketing trick to make numbers look much bigger while comparing to old CPUs and laptops :)
- alsetmusic 2y ago
  Given that they also compare it to an M1 in the same aside, I'd say you're wrong. > Up to 23.8x faster basecalling for DNA sequencing in Oxford Nanopore MinKNOW when compared to the 16-inch MacBook Pro with Core i9, and up to 1.8x faster when compared to the 16-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Pro.
postexitus 2y ago
I have a 2013 Macbook Air as a casual browsing machine that's still going strong (by some definition of it) after a battery replacement.
michaelmueller 2y ago
Yup, I'm a developer who still primarily works on a 2018 Intel Mac. Apple's messaging felt very targeted towards me. Looking forward to getting the M4 Max as soon as possible!
- trogdor 2y ago
  Oh, wow. You are in for a treat. The only downside is that your computer will no longer double as a space heater :p
  - orangecat 2y ago
    Indeed. The one positive feature of the 2019 MBP I briefly had to use was that my cat loved taking naps on it.

hu3 2y ago

They are going to milk these horrendous crazy hot x86 thermally throttled macs performance comparisons for a decade.

musictubes 2y ago

Ben Bejarin said that around 50% of the installed base is still using Macs with Intel chips. You’ll keep hearing that comparison until that number goes down.