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No, they were anything but peaceful. [0][1] >And there was no war for 50+ years. There is still no war between Russia and the US. [0] https://en.wikipedia.or

No, they were anything but peaceful. [0][1] >And there was no war for 50+ years. There is still no war between Russia and the US. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis#Averted_nuclear_launch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis#Averted_n... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Kennedy's_escalation,_1961%E2%80%931963 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Kennedy's_escalati...

aguaviva 2y ago
Fascinating, the degree to which Kennedy's delusion that he could "make his power credible" by taking a stand in Vietnam mirrors Putin's own delusion that he could win a similar degree of credibility by going into Ukraine: Kennedy believed another failure to stop communist expansion would irreparably damage US credibility. He was determined to "draw a line in the sand" and prevent a communist victory in Vietnam. He told James Reston of The New York Times after the Vienna summit with Khrushchev, "Now we have a problem making our power credible and Vietnam looks like the place." As Žižek teaches us: everything happens twice -- first as tragedy, then as farce.
- nataliste 2y ago
  >As Žižek teaches us: everything happens twice -- first as tragedy, then as farce. That line actually originates from Karl Marx's The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte: "Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice...the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce." Žižek often references this concept, but it’s Marx who coined it in his analysis of historical repetition. You need to really work on the depth of your historical understanding and get off of Mastodon or Lemmy, which I'm guessing is why I mistook your addledness for Twitter.
  - aguaviva 2y ago
    Haven't been on either of those platforms, and couldn't even tell you what they look like. But if that's the only defense you have for the current farce -- sure, go ahead and run with it.
    - nataliste 2y ago
      Will do -- again. Hope that information helps. :)
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aguaviva 2y ago

Fascinating, the degree to which Kennedy's delusion that he could "make his power credible" by taking a stand in Vietnam mirrors Putin's own delusion that he could win a similar degree of credibility by going into Ukraine: Kennedy believed another failure to stop communist expansion would irreparably damage US credibility. He was determined to "draw a line in the sand" and prevent a communist victory in Vietnam. He told James Reston of The New York Times after the Vienna summit with Khrushchev, "Now we have a problem making our power credible and Vietnam looks like the place." As Žižek teaches us: everything happens twice -- first as tragedy, then as farce.

nataliste 2y ago
>As Žižek teaches us: everything happens twice -- first as tragedy, then as farce. That line actually originates from Karl Marx's The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte: "Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice...the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce." Žižek often references this concept, but it’s Marx who coined it in his analysis of historical repetition. You need to really work on the depth of your historical understanding and get off of Mastodon or Lemmy, which I'm guessing is why I mistook your addledness for Twitter.
- aguaviva 2y ago
  Haven't been on either of those platforms, and couldn't even tell you what they look like. But if that's the only defense you have for the current farce -- sure, go ahead and run with it.
  - nataliste 2y ago
    Will do -- again. Hope that information helps. :)
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