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'An incurable romantic': The boy who lived a secret life in World of Warcraft

26 points by ColinWright 2y ago

glimshe 2y ago
The question is: for this boy, which one was the "real world" and which one was the "virtual world"?
- perching_aix 2y ago
  Do they have to be one or the other?
- chx 2y ago
  that is, alas, easy to tell. The real world is where your body hurts.
bitwize 2y ago
[flagged]
- thrw42A8N 2y ago
  On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
- stonethrowaway 2y ago
  Not sure why this is downvoted. It’s the absolute summation of this sort of thing. Anyone who grew up in that time period can immediately relate to both the personal feeling of it, as well as the anonymity and isolation of these things from the “real world.”
- deleted 2y ago
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Elfener 2y ago
> The Steens knew that their son was an avid gamer, but they'd not grasped that for nearly a decade, he had had another virtual life in the game World of Warcraft. I had to read this sentence a couple of times before it made sense. If you ignore everything after the last comma, "knew that their son was an avid gamer, but they'd not grasped that" is an oxymoron.
- perching_aix 2y ago
  Is it? For example, you can understand some event putting others in great misfortune, even in detail, and you can go through that misfortune yourself. The latter grants a very different understanding. It's similar to what the rest of that sentence conveyed. I don't know why anyone would understand this any other way actually.
  - jtsiskin 2y ago
    They're saying it’s similar to a garden path sentence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence - it’s easy to parse wrong at first
    - perching_aix 2y ago
      Yeah I understood that, it's just that even when I read it the alternative way they misread it, I get nearly the same meaning and it is sensible, no oxymorons to be found. Maybe I'm further from native level than I thought and it's just not hitting my ears nearly as bad, I don't know.
- deleted 2y ago
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debugnik 2y ago
It doesn't show him, but I found warming this video [1] of his guild singing together during a video chat with him, as he couldn't join them. It was shared by a guild member under the parents' last post to his blog, which is linked in the article. [1]: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2leimccyacl7wlg/With%20Ibelin%20DK.AVI?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/2leimccyacl7wlg/With%20Ibelin%20DK...
5555624 2y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41749592 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41749592
lubujackson 2y ago
Glad he found some normalcy online. Great story. I am surprised that anyone still questions that relationships can form without physical presence, though. Over 30 years ago I met my first girlfriend on a BBS (we dated after meeting IRL, but it started online) and well before computers people would fall in love over the phone or before that, through letters. Now that I think about it, the fact his parents didn't really know about his online life may have been half the point. Not only did he get to unfurl his wings, he got to do it on his own terms without parental oversight.
johnea 2y ago
In his real life, as a database entry in a corporate s/w platform...
Thazdraz 2y ago
As someone who's been playing World of Warcraft for over five years and has tried nearly every type of content—from PvE and PvP to casual dailies and high-level raids—I found this article fascinating. It's amazing to see how gaming has evolved from a niche hobby to an industry with complex social and economic ecosystems. In my own experience, the in-game economy and player services are integral to the gaming world, especially in games as established as WoW. WoW Boost services (https://wowvendor.com/shop/wow/ https://wowvendor.com/shop/wow/), for example, have become a go-to for players who want to experience the high-end content but don’t have the time to grind or coordinate with guilds. The demand for boosting shows how players are willing to invest in their experience—time and effort are valuable resources, and not everyone can dedicate endless hours to reach endgame. Looking back, it’s clear how the ecosystem around WoW has shaped the community. From the introduction of the WoW Token to gold-trading sites and professional boosting services, WoW’s evolution mirrors a broader trend of personalization and accessibility in gaming. However, these shifts do spark debate, as some argue that paid services undermine the game’s integrity. Personally, I believe as long as these services are used responsibly, they add to the gaming experience rather than detract from it. Overall, the points in this article resonate deeply. Gaming has become a multifaceted space with options for everyone, whether they seek intense challenges or social escapism. Articles like this do a great job of capturing how games have transformed into full ecosystems, balancing between in-game achievements and real-world convenience.

26 points by ColinWright 2y ago

glimshe 2y ago

The question is: for this boy, which one was the "real world" and which one was the "virtual world"?

perching_aix 2y ago
Do they have to be one or the other?
chx 2y ago
that is, alas, easy to tell. The real world is where your body hurts.

bitwize 2y ago

[flagged]

thrw42A8N 2y ago
On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.
stonethrowaway 2y ago
Not sure why this is downvoted. It’s the absolute summation of this sort of thing. Anyone who grew up in that time period can immediately relate to both the personal feeling of it, as well as the anonymity and isolation of these things from the “real world.”
deleted 2y ago
[deleted]

Elfener 2y ago

> The Steens knew that their son was an avid gamer, but they'd not grasped that for nearly a decade, he had had another virtual life in the game World of Warcraft. I had to read this sentence a couple of times before it made sense. If you ignore everything after the last comma, "knew that their son was an avid gamer, but they'd not grasped that" is an oxymoron.

perching_aix 2y ago
Is it? For example, you can understand some event putting others in great misfortune, even in detail, and you can go through that misfortune yourself. The latter grants a very different understanding. It's similar to what the rest of that sentence conveyed. I don't know why anyone would understand this any other way actually.
- jtsiskin 2y ago
  They're saying it’s similar to a garden path sentence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence - it’s easy to parse wrong at first
  - perching_aix 2y ago
    Yeah I understood that, it's just that even when I read it the alternative way they misread it, I get nearly the same meaning and it is sensible, no oxymorons to be found. Maybe I'm further from native level than I thought and it's just not hitting my ears nearly as bad, I don't know.
deleted 2y ago
[deleted]

debugnik 2y ago

It doesn't show him, but I found warming this video [1] of his guild singing together during a video chat with him, as he couldn't join them. It was shared by a guild member under the parents' last post to his blog, which is linked in the article. [1]: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2leimccyacl7wlg/With%20Ibelin%20DK.AVI?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/2leimccyacl7wlg/With%20Ibelin%20DK...

5555624 2y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41749592 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41749592

lubujackson 2y ago

Glad he found some normalcy online. Great story. I am surprised that anyone still questions that relationships can form without physical presence, though. Over 30 years ago I met my first girlfriend on a BBS (we dated after meeting IRL, but it started online) and well before computers people would fall in love over the phone or before that, through letters. Now that I think about it, the fact his parents didn't really know about his online life may have been half the point. Not only did he get to unfurl his wings, he got to do it on his own terms without parental oversight.

johnea 2y ago

In his real life, as a database entry in a corporate s/w platform...

Thazdraz 2y ago

As someone who's been playing World of Warcraft for over five years and has tried nearly every type of content—from PvE and PvP to casual dailies and high-level raids—I found this article fascinating. It's amazing to see how gaming has evolved from a niche hobby to an industry with complex social and economic ecosystems. In my own experience, the in-game economy and player services are integral to the gaming world, especially in games as established as WoW. WoW Boost services (https://wowvendor.com/shop/wow/ https://wowvendor.com/shop/wow/), for example, have become a go-to for players who want to experience the high-end content but don’t have the time to grind or coordinate with guilds. The demand for boosting shows how players are willing to invest in their experience—time and effort are valuable resources, and not everyone can dedicate endless hours to reach endgame. Looking back, it’s clear how the ecosystem around WoW has shaped the community. From the introduction of the WoW Token to gold-trading sites and professional boosting services, WoW’s evolution mirrors a broader trend of personalization and accessibility in gaming. However, these shifts do spark debate, as some argue that paid services undermine the game’s integrity. Personally, I believe as long as these services are used responsibly, they add to the gaming experience rather than detract from it. Overall, the points in this article resonate deeply. Gaming has become a multifaceted space with options for everyone, whether they seek intense challenges or social escapism. Articles like this do a great job of capturing how games have transformed into full ecosystems, balancing between in-game achievements and real-world convenience.