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> I'm actually very curious why AI use is such a bi-modal experience. My conspiracy theory is that the positive experiences are exaggerated and come from inves

by xk_id 2y ago

> I'm actually very curious why AI use is such a bi-modal experience. My conspiracy theory is that the positive experiences are exaggerated and come from investors in the Nvidia stock.

Nullabillity 2y ago
That's a very important caveat. In our modern economy it's difficult to not be a shill in some way, shape, or form, even if you don't quite realize it consciously. It's honestly one of the most depressing things about the stock market.
- xk_id 2y ago
  I credit my past interest in cryptocurrencies for educating me about the essence of the stock market in its purest form. And in fact there are painful parallels with the AI bubble.
- malux85 2y ago
  Theres a big difference between being a happy customer and being a shill.
  - Nullabillity 2y ago
    Holding stock is not being a "happy customer". I may be happy with the headset that I bought, but the difference is that I don't make money if you buy an identical one.
    - malux85 2y ago
      I wasnt talking about holding stock, I was responding to this comment you said: > In our modern economy it's difficult to not be a shill in some way, shape, or form, even if you don't quite realize it consciously. Oxford dictionary defines a shill as "an accomplice of a confidence trickster or swindler who poses as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others." So the difference between someone shilling and being a satisfied customer is an intent to decieve. How is it "difficult to not pose as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others" ?
eyegor 2y ago
Have you tried using chatgpt/etc as a starting point when you're unfamiliar with something? That's where it really excels for me, I can go crazy fast from 0 to ~30 (if we call 60 mvp). For example, the other day I was trying to stream some pcm audio using webaudio and it spit out a mostly functional prototype for me in a few minutes of trying. For me to read through msdn and get to that point would've taken an hour or two, and going from the crappy prototype as a starting point to read up on webaudio let me get an mvp in ~15 mins. I rarely touch frontend web code so for me these tools are super helpful. On the other hand, I find it just wastes my time in more typical tasks like implementing business logic in a familiar language cause it makes up stdlib apis too often.
- silisili 2y ago
  This is about the only use case I found it helpful for - saving me time in research, not in coding. I needed to compare compression ratios of a certain text in a language, and it actually came up with something nice and almost workable. It didn't compile but I forgot why now, I just remember it needing a small tweak. That saved me having to track down the libraries, their APIs, etc. However, when it comes to actually doing data structures or logic, I find it quicker to just do it myself than to type out what I want to do, and double check its work.
- xk_id 2y ago
  I don’t really care about broken clocks even if to someone they are useful twice a day.

by xk_id 2y ago

> I'm actually very curious why AI use is such a bi-modal experience. My conspiracy theory is that the positive experiences are exaggerated and come from investors in the Nvidia stock.

Nullabillity 2y ago

That's a very important caveat. In our modern economy it's difficult to not be a shill in some way, shape, or form, even if you don't quite realize it consciously. It's honestly one of the most depressing things about the stock market.

xk_id 2y ago
I credit my past interest in cryptocurrencies for educating me about the essence of the stock market in its purest form. And in fact there are painful parallels with the AI bubble.
malux85 2y ago
Theres a big difference between being a happy customer and being a shill.
- Nullabillity 2y ago
  Holding stock is not being a "happy customer". I may be happy with the headset that I bought, but the difference is that I don't make money if you buy an identical one.
  - malux85 2y ago
    I wasnt talking about holding stock, I was responding to this comment you said: > In our modern economy it's difficult to not be a shill in some way, shape, or form, even if you don't quite realize it consciously. Oxford dictionary defines a shill as "an accomplice of a confidence trickster or swindler who poses as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others." So the difference between someone shilling and being a satisfied customer is an intent to decieve. How is it "difficult to not pose as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others" ?

eyegor 2y ago

Have you tried using chatgpt/etc as a starting point when you're unfamiliar with something? That's where it really excels for me, I can go crazy fast from 0 to ~30 (if we call 60 mvp). For example, the other day I was trying to stream some pcm audio using webaudio and it spit out a mostly functional prototype for me in a few minutes of trying. For me to read through msdn and get to that point would've taken an hour or two, and going from the crappy prototype as a starting point to read up on webaudio let me get an mvp in ~15 mins. I rarely touch frontend web code so for me these tools are super helpful. On the other hand, I find it just wastes my time in more typical tasks like implementing business logic in a familiar language cause it makes up stdlib apis too often.

silisili 2y ago
This is about the only use case I found it helpful for - saving me time in research, not in coding. I needed to compare compression ratios of a certain text in a language, and it actually came up with something nice and almost workable. It didn't compile but I forgot why now, I just remember it needing a small tweak. That saved me having to track down the libraries, their APIs, etc. However, when it comes to actually doing data structures or logic, I find it quicker to just do it myself than to type out what I want to do, and double check its work.
xk_id 2y ago
I don’t really care about broken clocks even if to someone they are useful twice a day.