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The health benefits of eating less and fasting such as autophagy, ketones occurs with or without gpl1. That is how gpl1 is healthy, because eating less and fast

The health benefits of eating less and fasting such as autophagy, ketones occurs with or without gpl1. That is how gpl1 is healthy, because eating less and fasting is healthy. You don't have to go to the gym to activate and stimulate muscles. But our bodies are made for daily usage of muscles. We always had downtrodden, poor, weak people, in any society. But in the 1970's they were not obese. We dont take daily vaccins they are a intervention. Gpl1 could be intervention for obesity patients. The danger of long term usage of gpl1 is that our bodies emerged ecosystems that we don't understand yet. By reducing hunger signals that their motivate a person to get nutrition such as protein, vitamins and minerals, etc Leads to malnutrition, muscle loss and other diseases. Your point is that there is no problem with current paradigm of nutrition while at the same time promoting a agent that stops the addictive nature of our current nutritional paradigm. If you use gpl-1, And it works for you that is great and we should be grateful that gpl-1 is available. My only advice would be, to lift weights or callisthenics to keep your muscle size and strength. And to explore other nutritional paradigms that can help you maintain the weight loss without gpl-1.

vineyardmike 2y ago
> That is how gpl1 is healthy, because eating less and fasting is healthy. These medications do so much more than this. First, they have all sorts of direct metabolic benefits beyond just eating less, and secondly, studies are linking them to non-metabolic benefits too. You don’t have to go to the gym to stimulate your bodies, but most people require it because they won’t do it naturally in their life. You don’t need GLP1s to regulate your metabolism, but it seems most people aren’t doing it naturally in their life. In 1970s, people died of hunger. We’re also not in the 70s and won’t be going back. Our society has a surplus of unhealthy food and an uneven distribution of healthy food. The food is engineered in labs to be addictive. Our society doesn’t make room for regular physical exercise. So many things wrong, and until we start regulating the food industry, the best we can do is correct mistakes. I’m also not sure there is any real evidence that the GLP1s are causing malnutrition because of “hunger signals”. But ensuring proper nutrition of vitamins and micronutrients is not that hard to monitor. I’ve never used a GLP1 antagonist. I’m not one to brag to strangers on the internet, but I view myself as rather healthy and athletic. It’s a lot of work, it’s not that fun, it takes a lot of time. I just don’t believe that the only right way to be healthy is waste an hour in the gym every morning and do “hard work”. If there was a CrossFit pill, I’d be here supporting that too. Some things (working out, vaccines) are basically just a net-good on the health of society. Why isn’t it possible that this is included in that list?

vineyardmike 2y ago

> That is how gpl1 is healthy, because eating less and fasting is healthy. These medications do so much more than this. First, they have all sorts of direct metabolic benefits beyond just eating less, and secondly, studies are linking them to non-metabolic benefits too. You don’t have to go to the gym to stimulate your bodies, but most people require it because they won’t do it naturally in their life. You don’t need GLP1s to regulate your metabolism, but it seems most people aren’t doing it naturally in their life. In 1970s, people died of hunger. We’re also not in the 70s and won’t be going back. Our society has a surplus of unhealthy food and an uneven distribution of healthy food. The food is engineered in labs to be addictive. Our society doesn’t make room for regular physical exercise. So many things wrong, and until we start regulating the food industry, the best we can do is correct mistakes. I’m also not sure there is any real evidence that the GLP1s are causing malnutrition because of “hunger signals”. But ensuring proper nutrition of vitamins and micronutrients is not that hard to monitor. I’ve never used a GLP1 antagonist. I’m not one to brag to strangers on the internet, but I view myself as rather healthy and athletic. It’s a lot of work, it’s not that fun, it takes a lot of time. I just don’t believe that the only right way to be healthy is waste an hour in the gym every morning and do “hard work”. If there was a CrossFit pill, I’d be here supporting that too. Some things (working out, vaccines) are basically just a net-good on the health of society. Why isn’t it possible that this is included in that list?