3 ms·

Transit workers who lost jobs when they didn't get Covid vaccines awarded $1M

librasteve 2y ago
a vaccine works in the context of the whole population ... it is usually (very slightly) risky for the individual but as a group we all benefit from selfless individuals who value the community over their own selfish interest (vulnerable folks to be excluded from this comment, or course)
- cheaprentalyeti 2y ago
  If the covid vaccines were sterilizing vaccines that would be a good point, but they're not. As an example let me cite the case of Anthony Fauci, who kept up to date on his boosters but got covid three times. (And what do you know, each time he didn't take the Remdesivir he limited everyone else to taking the first year of the epidemic, he took Paxlovid instead.)
- dent9876543 2y ago
  I don't know. The vaccine wasn't as effective as it might have been. So it didn't really matter that acceptance wasn't 100%. For a better vaccine, or a less virulent virus, it might have mattered. But for the ones we got, it didn't.
- rgrieselhuber 2y ago
  This was the rhetoric at the time and it just doesn’t fly. You can’t force people to do something to their bodies in order to make you feel safe. If you’re that worried, just stay home.
  - stroop 2y ago
    I just can't comprehend anyone being ok with government mandated injections, particularly when tied to your ID. How many governments in history would they trust with such powers.
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
Good. Forcing medical procedures onto people is a violation of basic human rights. And no, I don’t buy the argument that they “weren’t forced to because they can quit”.
- snarbles 2y ago
  I think I would sooner argue that refusing to take a safe vaccine and exposing others (or yourself if you have dependents) to potentially serious but largely avoidable diseases would be the greater violation.
- cherry_tree 2y ago
  Do you otherwise support “at-will employment”? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment
  - rgrieselhuber 2y ago
    It is already illegal to fire people based on their religious beliefs.

a vaccine works in the context of the whole population ... it is usually (very slightly) risky for the individual but as a group we all benefit from selfless individuals who value the community over their own selfish interest (vulnerable folks to be excluded from this comment, or course)

cheaprentalyeti 2y ago
If the covid vaccines were sterilizing vaccines that would be a good point, but they're not. As an example let me cite the case of Anthony Fauci, who kept up to date on his boosters but got covid three times. (And what do you know, each time he didn't take the Remdesivir he limited everyone else to taking the first year of the epidemic, he took Paxlovid instead.)
dent9876543 2y ago
I don't know. The vaccine wasn't as effective as it might have been. So it didn't really matter that acceptance wasn't 100%. For a better vaccine, or a less virulent virus, it might have mattered. But for the ones we got, it didn't.
rgrieselhuber 2y ago
This was the rhetoric at the time and it just doesn’t fly. You can’t force people to do something to their bodies in order to make you feel safe. If you’re that worried, just stay home.
- stroop 2y ago
  I just can't comprehend anyone being ok with government mandated injections, particularly when tied to your ID. How many governments in history would they trust with such powers.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

Good. Forcing medical procedures onto people is a violation of basic human rights. And no, I don’t buy the argument that they “weren’t forced to because they can quit”.

snarbles 2y ago
I think I would sooner argue that refusing to take a safe vaccine and exposing others (or yourself if you have dependents) to potentially serious but largely avoidable diseases would be the greater violation.
cherry_tree 2y ago
Do you otherwise support “at-will employment”? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment
- rgrieselhuber 2y ago
  It is already illegal to fire people based on their religious beliefs.