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Congrats on the launch, this looks very interesting! Will it ever be possible to self-host Prisma Postgres (or Pulse)? It's great that I can use your platform,

by iyn 2y ago

Congrats on the launch, this looks very interesting! Will it ever be possible to self-host Prisma Postgres (or Pulse)? It's great that I can use your platform, but if I adopted e.g. Pulse, that's a non-trivial vendor lock in. I'd feel _much_ safer/confident building my app around the Prisma stack (besides the ORM, which I like).

gniting 2y ago
Self-hosting for Prisma Postgres, Pulse, and Accelerate isn’t currently on the agenda. Our focus is on building Prisma into a company that gives developers the best tools for working with data. We handle a lot of the underlying complexity, abstracting it away to make the developer experience seamless so that teams can concentrate on building their applications rather than worrying about infrastructure—just as we do with databases and the Prisma ORM. Your point about concerns around vendor lock-in is completely valid, and we get it. However, we're confident that our approach with the ORM, along with the trust we’ve built with the community, will set the stage for us to develop long-term commercial products that are fit for serious, production-ready deployments.
- iyn 2y ago
  Thanks for clarification, that makes sense. Just to give you a bit more context, I've been evaluating CDC (change data capture) tooling and Prisma Pulse was one of the options. My primary data storage is Postgres but I have a need to react when data in some tables is changed (depending on some user-provided filters). I'm currently handling that with naive message push to SQS, because Debezium/Kafka setup is too expensive/complex. Prisma Pulse looks great, but that CDC part of my app is crucial and I need an option to be able to host it myself/on premises for some customers. However I totally understand the need to build a moat — good luck on your journey!
  - gniting 2y ago
    > because Debezium/Kafka setup is too expensive/complex Totally get that. Many of our users like Pulse because of that. > I need an option to be able to host it myself/on premises for some customers. Completely understand the need and thanks for the wishes!

by iyn 2y ago

gniting 2y ago

Self-hosting for Prisma Postgres, Pulse, and Accelerate isn’t currently on the agenda. Our focus is on building Prisma into a company that gives developers the best tools for working with data. We handle a lot of the underlying complexity, abstracting it away to make the developer experience seamless so that teams can concentrate on building their applications rather than worrying about infrastructure—just as we do with databases and the Prisma ORM. Your point about concerns around vendor lock-in is completely valid, and we get it. However, we're confident that our approach with the ORM, along with the trust we’ve built with the community, will set the stage for us to develop long-term commercial products that are fit for serious, production-ready deployments.

iyn 2y ago
Thanks for clarification, that makes sense. Just to give you a bit more context, I've been evaluating CDC (change data capture) tooling and Prisma Pulse was one of the options. My primary data storage is Postgres but I have a need to react when data in some tables is changed (depending on some user-provided filters). I'm currently handling that with naive message push to SQS, because Debezium/Kafka setup is too expensive/complex. Prisma Pulse looks great, but that CDC part of my app is crucial and I need an option to be able to host it myself/on premises for some customers. However I totally understand the need to build a moat — good luck on your journey!
- gniting 2y ago
  > because Debezium/Kafka setup is too expensive/complex Totally get that. Many of our users like Pulse because of that. > I need an option to be able to host it myself/on premises for some customers. Completely understand the need and thanks for the wishes!