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That's what Big IP wants. If copyright is drastically shortened, Mickey Mouse can rake in new IP more quickly and further reduce royalties for creators. Instea

That's what Big IP wants. If copyright is drastically shortened, Mickey Mouse can rake in new IP more quickly and further reduce royalties for creators. Instead let's support creators directly, boycott publishers, buy and produce physical media, avoid media subscriptions, and shift gaming to open source.

thot_experiment 2y ago
What? That makes zero sense, how do you figure that Disney, which makes a tremendous amount of money on licensing it's IP and is always fighting to strengthen and lengthen copyright would actually be better off if we did the opposite of what they've been fighting for for the last 100 years?
- maxwell 2y ago
  Most of their IP is itself derivative: fairy tales, mythology, classic novels, a Buston Keaton film, etc. With OG Mickey now lost to the public domain, they're shifting to trademarks [1], merchandise, media access (i.e. hastening the demise of physical media [2] to regain the cinema-style control they always favored until VHS busted open their vault and briefly enabled media ownership/collectibility/free repeat viewing), sports, and theme parks. Note that they now bring in more from sports and experiences than entertainment. [3] They'll look to commoditize copyright, so creators continue working for them for distribution instead of operating independently. If they can't automate the creators. 1. https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-courts-dog-toy-ruling-puts-parody-products-notice-2023-06-12 https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-courts-dog-toy-ruli... 2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2023/08/02/with-sales-dropping-disney-will-no-longer-sell-dvds-in-australia https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2023/08/02/with-sale... 3. https://www.statista.com/statistics/193140/revenue-of-the-walt-disney-company-by-operating-segment https://www.statista.com/statistics/193140/revenue-of-the-wa...
CBarkleyU 2y ago
Besides the fact that I have yet to see any "Big IP" fight for anything but strengthening and lengthening IP rights, your premise doesn't compute: Depending on the country copyright is either by itself transferable (and by far and away is done automatically in an employer-employee relationship) or transferable via exclusive licensing rights (for example in Germany). It's bizarre to think that Disney somehow has to fight their employees for Disney IP right. It would be nice if that was the case, but it isn't.
- WillPostForFood 2y ago
  Disney as an IP hoarder would lose, but Amazon as an IP retailer would win. If there was zero copyright, how could a independent publisher or small author compete? Amazon could just take everything ever and sell it at lowest available price.
  - ronsor 2y ago
    If there was zero copyright, why would I pay Amazon any price? And if I do pay someone, why would it be anyone other than the original author?
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thot_experiment 2y ago

What? That makes zero sense, how do you figure that Disney, which makes a tremendous amount of money on licensing it's IP and is always fighting to strengthen and lengthen copyright would actually be better off if we did the opposite of what they've been fighting for for the last 100 years?

maxwell 2y ago
Most of their IP is itself derivative: fairy tales, mythology, classic novels, a Buston Keaton film, etc. With OG Mickey now lost to the public domain, they're shifting to trademarks [1], merchandise, media access (i.e. hastening the demise of physical media [2] to regain the cinema-style control they always favored until VHS busted open their vault and briefly enabled media ownership/collectibility/free repeat viewing), sports, and theme parks. Note that they now bring in more from sports and experiences than entertainment. [3] They'll look to commoditize copyright, so creators continue working for them for distribution instead of operating independently. If they can't automate the creators. 1. https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-courts-dog-toy-ruling-puts-parody-products-notice-2023-06-12 https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-courts-dog-toy-ruli... 2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2023/08/02/with-sales-dropping-disney-will-no-longer-sell-dvds-in-australia https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2023/08/02/with-sale... 3. https://www.statista.com/statistics/193140/revenue-of-the-walt-disney-company-by-operating-segment https://www.statista.com/statistics/193140/revenue-of-the-wa...

CBarkleyU 2y ago

Besides the fact that I have yet to see any "Big IP" fight for anything but strengthening and lengthening IP rights, your premise doesn't compute: Depending on the country copyright is either by itself transferable (and by far and away is done automatically in an employer-employee relationship) or transferable via exclusive licensing rights (for example in Germany). It's bizarre to think that Disney somehow has to fight their employees for Disney IP right. It would be nice if that was the case, but it isn't.

WillPostForFood 2y ago
Disney as an IP hoarder would lose, but Amazon as an IP retailer would win. If there was zero copyright, how could a independent publisher or small author compete? Amazon could just take everything ever and sell it at lowest available price.
- ronsor 2y ago
  If there was zero copyright, why would I pay Amazon any price? And if I do pay someone, why would it be anyone other than the original author?
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